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Latest post on 07 March 2011 - 12:05

Has anyone tried the services of Stepping Stones at Health Care City for their children?

Can anyone give me a feedback and how they are compared to Child Early Intervention Medical Centre also at Health Care City?

Costs for these services are really going up and I am trying to check what options are available for ABA.

Thank You

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Latest post on 17 March 2011 - 12:21

Half moon, that's the one at Mirdiff private school right? It did sound very nice. All the best to your son.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 11:45

Hi av1998, my son is now attending the inclusion based program with stepping stones. He is happy so far..

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 10:54

Stepping Stones has an inclusion based programme similar to Child Enrichment Centre. However, they charge 15000 per child. Had a meeting with them and they are very professional, but their rates are higher than CEIMC

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Latest post on 13 March 2011 - 13:17

Thanks for this info, Jammie. My problem always exists cos I have two kids and this would again be costly. I really wish these special needs centres would bring down the costs or offer a discount. All the therapies are so expensive and for me the costs are doubled. I will be meeting with Carolina next week and see what can be worked out.

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Latest post on 12 March 2011 - 15:16

Hi trixibell, Just reading the last issue of the International Dyslexia Association publication, http://www.interdys.org/prod.aspx?prodid=195&catid=14. The issue is about controversial therapies for dyslexia. Several articles discusses the process-based therapies such as brain training that is based on fixing the brain processes that cuases dyslexia. The introductory article by Bruce Penninngton, a cognitive neuroscience prof at the university of Denver, explains how these process-based therapies lack the evidence and have not proved any significant gains in treating dyslexia. If you want the full version of the article email me monalisaunderscorephiathotmaildotcom

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Latest post on 10 March 2011 - 16:51

Hi av1998, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to Gulf News but here goes: http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/general/special-school-1.774167 This is my son! very proud! If it doesn't come through, it's an article in todays Express about the centre. He was the first child there mid October last year. On his own for first two weeks so had 3 teachers undivided attention!! He started off doing 3 days at 7000 a month and November moved up to 5 days at 9000 a month. It is 8 to 1, so 25hrs a week. They do toilet training in class, feeding etc. He has learnt to use a fork and his spoon properly since being there. They have lunch and snack that you provide and a recess. You get a written report page home each day. HTH

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Latest post on 10 March 2011 - 14:17

Jammie, you are right about my twins. I have been sending my kids to CEIMC for two years now and they progressed, but not to the level they could have as I could not afford more hours there and there are two kids involved so I was trying what I could do to manage. The Child Enrichment Centre they opened is nice, I visited that. But again it is way too expensive for me. I believe it is close to 12K a month for each child? Would you mind telling me how much you pay for your child and how many hours he goes there daily? I have found a similar set up in Jumeirah with SAFE centre and that is much more affordable with a classroom set up. I want to keep a combination of SAFE centre and intensive ABA as these centres do not provide toilet training, sending therapists with us for outings, etc. But CEIMC has min hours required for each child and this SAFE centre together is becoming a lot.Hence I was finding out about Reach Out and Stepping Stones. I don't want the kids to lose out onthe intensive training, but if I can limit the hours, it will be good. Dont know if Reach out or Stepping Stones have these facilities.

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 19:31

All the best trixibell. Please keep us posted and I'll also do that. Peace? :)

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 18:54

Thank you nonna2010. Your link is dead, however, I had previously searched for and read reviews of LearningRx and found that the positives far out-weighed the negatives. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. My own experience with The Brain and Learning so far has been excellent. I will continue to be positive and give my DS all the help that I can to overcome the difficulties his dyslexia causes him. Good luck in your pursuit of a cure for your child's dyslexia.:)

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 17:48

Hi trixibell, I totally understand you, in fact we are talking the same language. Please read this thread about LearningRx, the mother company of Brain and Learning. The thread has positive and negative comments about the company,some are from employees in the same company. You dont necessarily have to agree or disagree but it may raise more points of thoughts: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/learning-rx-c238956.html?sort=datea&page=1

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 17:05

Hi av1998, from previous posts I understand you have twin boys with ASD? My son had been at the Child Early Intervention Medical Center for over a year and in October 2010 started at the Child Learning and Enrichment Medical Centre. This is the new one in Al Wasl owned by the same people as CEIMC. He has made so much progress is this nursery setting with aba based lessons in a small group (max 6 kids per class, 3 assistants). He had previously done over a year of intensive aba/speech and OT and not made much progress at all! They have kids there from 2.5yrs to 10yrs plus speech and OT, music and dance. I don't have any first hand knowledge of Stepping Stones but from therapists that I know that had previously worked there the feedback was not good. At least with CEIMC it is monitored by CARD in the US. Also even though my son had a diagnosis and assessment done here, one in NZ and a CARD one done Stepping stones wanted 5,000 dirhams to assess him again just 2 mths after this assessments! I thought this was pretty bogus so steered clear of them. HTH

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 15:32

Hi trixibell, Thanks for your reply. I'm not making judgements, I'm just raising questions about the validity of such programs. Please read the independent article http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/brain-training-games-fail-to-improve-iq-says-study-1949267.html This is a summery of a research by university professors in the UK. And they have proven through studies that brain training will not generalize or translate into different mental tasks. If the program fixes the processes that cause dyslexia, it means it cures dyslexia. The real cause of dyslexia is still under research, there are more than 7 major theories that investigates that. I'm just a mother who looks desparatley to help my struggeling child. But I get very frustrated when this need is abused by false claims and promises. After a long journey of expeiences and trials I only beleive in research based approaches who validates an investigate. Not a research by the company itself though :) Hi Nonna2010, I completely feel for you, as I had undergone the same feelings of desperation and was not sure where to look. But I also knew that I had to find a real solution. I feel that you have made up your mind up without having all the facts and just refer to a single article to back up your views. I read the on the thread on Dyslexic Child what pinkBuddah had written. Have you read the various articles she posted like this one: http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2010/04/20/bbc-brain-training-experiment-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/ about the flaws of the very study you seem to think of as your evidence? Have you had your child assessed? Have you visited the Brain & Learning centre? They are not playing brain games that do not generalise!!!! this is very important for you to understand. They use targeted procedures that address the cognitive weaknesses for each child and not random brain games! Please read the above article as it will help you appreciate my point. I am not trying to convince you to get your child to do brain training. I know that this is the right choice for me and my son. It is not an easy fix but it's one that works, it takes dedication. If you need further evidence why don't you read this e-book: http://www.thebrainandlearning.com/ebook.html It's called "Unlock the Einstein Inside" and explores the underlying neuroscience of cognitive (brain) training. I hope I am reaching out to you from one mother to another. I wish you and your child all the best, but don't just take one article you once read ignoring all the other facts. You say you believe in research based programmes, so do your research and read the e-book and other books about neural plasticity. Best of luck:)

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 14:39

I have had a fair bit of experience working alongside people from both Stepping Stones & reach Out & just recenlty (like this last week or so) have been working alongside the Early Childhood Intervention Centre. As far as I know they are fairly new on the scene & are a Goverment Organisation offering a free or reduced rate service to those in need (Im not sure if this means UAE nationals only???) Im not saying that because they are Goverment that they ae not as good as the others, as yet I am not in a position to judge......am just letting you know what I know so far about them. Hope that helps a little :) I think you might be a bit confused between the Child Early Intervention Medical Centre which is a private business run out of an office in Healthcare City (and has been running for about 2-3 years) and the Dubai Early Childhood Intervention Centre which is a free service only for nationals and is run out of Zayed University. This has also been running for a few years.

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 14:09

Hi trixibell, Thanks for your reply. I'm not making judgements, I'm just raising questions about the validity of such programs. Please read the independent article http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/brain-training-games-fail-to-improve-iq-says-study-1949267.html This is a summery of a research by university professors in the UK. And they have proven through studies that brain training will not generalize or translate into different mental tasks. If the program fixes the processes that cause dyslexia, it means it cures dyslexia. The real cause of dyslexia is still under research, there are more than 7 major theories that investigates that. I'm just a mother who looks desparatley to help my struggeling child. But I get very frustrated when this need is abused by false claims and promises. After a long journey of expeiences and trials I only beleive in research based approaches who validates an investigate. Not a research by the company itself though :)

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 13:54

I have had a fair bit of experience working alongside people from both Stepping Stones & reach Out & just recenlty (like this last week or so) have been working alongside the Early Childhood Intervention Centre. As far as I know they are fairly new on the scene & are a Goverment Organisation offering a free or reduced rate service to those in need (Im not sure if this means UAE nationals only???) Im not saying that because they are Goverment that they ae not as good as the others, as yet I am not in a position to judge......am just letting you know what I know so far about them. Hope that helps a little :)

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 13:41

trixibell Posts 20 Hi Nonna2010, Have you actually had your child assessed by Pooneh? When we met with her she made it clear that her centre does not teach academic subjects, ie reading, maths, etc. The programme does not fill in the gaps that were missed before. At our initial meeting and at the feedback session she never said she could 'cure' dyslexia but she did say that the programme helps fix the processes in the brain which cause dyslexia such as auditory processing and once they are fixed then the person has a much better ability to learn. Also, as the mother of a child who has an IQ of 128 (assessed in the UK) but who is struggling in most areas of his schooling I don't know why you place so much emphasis on IQ. The assessment she did for DS showed his strengths and weaknesses which, to us, was much more revealing than a number that has had no bearing on his progress except to highlight his failure to reach his potential. We now know the areas he has most difficulty with and feel we are able to do something real to help. The Brain and Learning programme is not the same for any two children as no two children have the same cognitive strengths and weaknesses. Your questions about IQ are answered on www.thebrainandlearning.com/IQ.html I really feel you should not make these judgements without first having your child assessed and seeing things in context. The assessment was only Dhs 200 and has been the most comprehensive picture of my son's learning difficulties to date. In the consultation Pooneh spent well over an hour answering our questions and clarifying facts. I am sure that you could find out more specific facts about your child at a consultation.

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 12:34

It is exciting to think about brain training. I'm a parent of a child with dyslexia, I've tried many things. Before you spend money on programs that make great promises, ask what is the research behind them. Brain training has been proven to improve the skills practiced by itself without generalizing this skill into other areas of learning. By that I mean brain training will not teach your child reading skills. Read this article by the independent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/brain-training-games-fail-to-improve-iq-says-study-1949267.html. I've spoken to Ms.Pooneh, the director, she is telling me that the program can cure the cause of dyslexia but in the same time she is saying I still have to teach my child reading, so what is the point of this huge money and time investment if my child still wont be able to read??? Across the world there is not a single research that proves brain training can improve memory processes in several learning areas. The skill cant be generalized. Go and ask Dyslexia university professors before you believe such claims. Another ineteresting thing that I noticed while takling to Ms.Pooneh, the screening assessment she is doing does not test the child IQ. She is designing the program regardless of the child IQ. Does it make sense that a bright child will undergo the same program with an average or below average child? How will the program identify the child's ability level if IQ is disregarded. May be some of you will say: but we notice improvement. Well 5 days per week over 3 months will certainly show something. The question is what is this improvement? how it targets the core problem (for example dyslexia)? what will happen upon finishing this 3 months program? will the child stop having learning difficulty or it is a placebo effect? Just give it a second thought before you spend money and time.

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 12:19

Hi av1998, The Brain and Learning is in Office 1103 of the Grosvenor Business Tower in TECOM 3 (opposite the Media Rotana). Tel. No.: 04 453 4170. Check out their website: www.thebrainandlearning.com Good luck

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Latest post on 08 March 2011 - 10:53

I have used Reach out before and I have kept that as an option. Trixibell, could you give me the contact details of this place? Halfmoon, did your son start at that inclusion facility they have just opened at Mirdiff or the one at Health Care City? How are their charges? Thanks all

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Latest post on 07 March 2011 - 15:31

My son is using stepping stones service. He just started this week. It is more like including special need children in normal school atmosphere.

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Latest post on 07 March 2011 - 15:22

I would suggest checking out The Brain and Learning in Tecom. My DS was assessed there last weekend. We just had feedback and have decided to sign him up for three months brain training. He has dyslexia, but I noticed on their website and in the literature that children (and adults) with ADHD, ADD, Autism and Asperger's benefit from training. We were really impressed.

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Latest post on 07 March 2011 - 12:52

There is also Reach out at knowledge village, only have experience with them and they are very good.

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