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Latest post on 02 October 2011 - 19:11

DS has been grumpy, miserable and totally intolerant since he got up from his nap this afternoon. He felt roasting to me, so I took his temp with one of those forehead things and it was 38. I took it against his back and it was 39. He is getting some pretty big teeth right now, but can that cause a high temp? He has no other obvious symptoms, ate some of his dinner (not all) and seems to have gone off to sleep - with a bit of moaning - now.

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Latest post on 04 October 2011 - 14:10

... At 38.5 you should give a Tylenol suppository... May I suggest you *could*, as opposed to *should* give a suppository? I'm a massive fan on the supp, as my middle child cannot keep oral medicines down when she has a fever. Suppositories are as safe as oral medicines when given appropriately, but they are an option to consider, not a *should*. ;) Suppositories are the fastest way to get a fever down, and at 38.5 you really *should* get it down... ...unless advised otherwise. LOL...our (wonderful) GP often said, "treat the child, not the fever". Like HAK said below, what is a 'high' fever for one child is not so 'high' for another. If my youngest develops a temp, it's usually hovering around 38.5 to 39 but she's otherwise absolutely fine. If my son gets a temp even a shade over 37.5, he is in misery and gets the Calpol straight away. Under 2 & with a temp I have always taken them to a Dr. The Drs always suggest to watch them and treat with Calpol or Nurofen (as appropriate to the cause of the temp) if the temp goes over 39 or if they becomes miserable. Yes...supp's get it down faster, but unless there is some sense of urgency (or inability to stomach anything by mouth) they are not a *must*. Here in Aus many pharmacies don't even keep supp's in stock. I got used to using them in Dubai but now have to order them in if I need them here. They are just not part of a common home treatment plan here. I did a quick survey of my friends who have children ranging from 18yrs to a few months old. Not one of them had ever administered a supp to any of their children. <em>edited by Green-ish on 04/10/2011</em>

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Latest post on 04 October 2011 - 13:23

... At 38.5 you should give a Tylenol suppository... May I suggest you *could*, as opposed to *should* give a suppository? I'm a massive fan on the supp, as my middle child cannot keep oral medicines down when she has a fever. Suppositories are as safe as oral medicines when given appropriately, but they are an option to consider, not a *should*. ;) Suppositories are the fastest way to get a fever down, and at 38.5 you really *should* get it down. If you take a child to the hospital with a high fever they will be given a suppository there, so you *could* just go straight to the hospital and let them do it there ;-) Glad to hear he's feeling better!

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Latest post on 04 October 2011 - 12:47

... At 38.5 you should give a Tylenol suppository... May I suggest you *could*, as opposed to *should* give a suppository? I'm a massive fan on the supp, as my middle child cannot keep oral medicines down when she has a fever. Suppositories are as safe as oral medicines when given appropriately, but they are an option to consider, not a *should*. ;)

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Latest post on 04 October 2011 - 12:44

Good news that he is getting better sleep DC. More sleep for you too I hope! Have you tried calculating the ibuprofen and paracetamol doses per kg? (rather than by age?) I have no idea who came up with the age ranges on these medicines, but my children have always fallen way outside of the weight range suggested for their age! Ibuprofen - 10mg per kg per dose, 6-8 hourly, max four times in 24 hours. Paracetamol - 15mg per kg per dose, 6-8 hourly, max four times in 24 hours. If a high fever is not breaking AND the child is miserable, you *can* alternate between paracetamol and ibuprofen every 2 hours...but I'd recommend checking with your paed/GP if you think this might be necessary so they can double check for other symptoms.

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Latest post on 04 October 2011 - 09:41

He had a much better night, thanks. I gave him the right dose of baby ibuprofen at 6 (not the dose for a six-month-old!) and he was in bed asleep by 6.15, woke once in the night and had another dose and slept until just before seven. Seems much happier in himself now, and went off for his morning nap with no fuss. Fingers crossed he's on the mend!

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 23:13

Rosella is really hard to diagnose until the rash comes out. Normally it's 3 days of very high fever with no other symptoms except general unhappiness and then the rash comes out when the fever breaks, at which point the kiddo starts to feel a lot better. At 38.5 you should give a Tylenol suppository, if it hasn't gone below 38 an hour after that you should head to the hospital. . . Hope he's feeling better and all are happily sleeping now :-)

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 21:15

Yes the rash comes after the fever. Personally I think I would get thee to a hospital at 40c...but I may be under/over cautious - not sure :( Can't answer the health card/AW question, I am afraid. Hope he is better soon.

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 18:38

DC - this http://kidshealth.org/parent/infections/skin/roseola.html is roseola. DS has just had it and it seems to be going about - I know three others with it...His temp went up to 40c and it was not pleasant. Took him to Medcare where they gave him suppositories for the fever and (bless him) an icy wash down. Imagine the howling! I'd get yours to the docs. Hope he is well soon. So they don't get the rash until the fever breaks? He doesn't seem to have any signs of respiratory illness at the moment but a friend did say he sounded sniffly when he woke up this afternoon.

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 18:37

Thanks for all the input :). We went to the doctor this morning and of course, having been miserable, grumpy and hot all morning, when he got there he was chirpy and had no fever. According to the doctor he's cutting three pre-molars and has a slight throat infection, which could be left over from the tonsillitis he had last week. And that's about it. I told the doctor he'd had diarrhoea last night but not since, and the minute we got to the bank after the doctor he had explosive diarrhoea everywhere. And as soon as we got home I took his temp again and it was back up at 39.2. Then he only slept for half an hour this afternoon, when he normally sleeps for an hour and a half, and woke up crying again. Apparently I haven't been giving him a high enough dose of either Calpol or Calprofen - shows how sleep-deprived I am! I worked out his new dose a couple of weeks ago, according to his age, and for some reason decided he's six months old again. Duh. He's in bed now super-early because he's beyond shattered. I guess all I can do is keep a close eye on him and take him back to the doctor if he doesn't improve. At what temperature should I take him to the hospital if he gets worse overnight? And can I take him to Al Wasl if he doesn't have a health card?

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 16:53

..."the only thing babies get from teething is teeth!!!"... I think any time an infant or toddler has a fever over 38 and ANY other symptom (irritable, lethargic, off food etc etc) they should be seen by a doctor. Better to be safe than sorry. How is he doing DC? Of course they should. One poor wee mite had been grizzly and hot for a week before the mum decided enough was enough and granny didn't really know best. He had Scarlet fever.

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 15:29

..."the only thing babies get from teething is teeth!!!"... I think any time an infant or toddler has a fever over 38 and ANY other symptom (irritable, lethargic, off food etc etc) they should be seen by a doctor. Better to be safe than sorry. How is he doing DC?

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 14:05

DC - this http://kidshealth.org/parent/infections/skin/roseola.html is roseola. DS has just had it and it seems to be going about - I know three others with it...His temp went up to 40c and it was not pleasant. Took him to Medcare where they gave him suppositories for the fever and (bless him) an icy wash down. Imagine the howling! I'd get yours to the docs. Hope he is well soon.

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 13:24

It is a mistake to attribute symptoms like a soaring high temp to teething. As a nurse, I have seen very ill babies being admitted to hospital because mum or well meaning grandma thought that it was "just teething". Grizzling, red cheeks, excess saliva etc, fine but other symptoms like a high temp, lethargy, high pitched crying can indicate other conditions. One doctor I worked with used to say, "the only thing babies get from teething is teeth!!!" I don't want to worry new mums but please check with your HV or doctor if baby is out of sorts for any length of time. It may be a painful ear infection or something else that needs treatment. Better to be seen as a paranoid mum and be sure :)

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 12:12

In my personal experience it can definitely cause a temp that high. DS1 was unphased by teething but DS2 is extra sensitive and gets nappy rash, high temps, frequent night waking and loss of apetite. :(

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 10:56

:(. He took forever to go to sleep and only slept for an hour, whereas he normally has at least an hour and a half in the morning and three hours if he's had a restless night. And he's woken up crying, so he's clearly not had enough sleep. Off to take his temperature again... I'd say it's probably worth a trip to the Dr... molars are horrid, but wouldn't be that extreme.

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 10:55

:(. He took forever to go to sleep and only slept for an hour, whereas he normally has at least an hour and a half in the morning and three hours if he's had a restless night. And he's woken up crying, so he's clearly not had enough sleep. Off to take his temperature again...

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Latest post on 03 October 2011 - 09:14

I think for him this is pretty high. He's had fevers before when he's had ear infections, but I don't think he's ever felt as hot as he did yesterday and last night. I couldn't find the forehead thermometer for ages so I was just relying on how he felt to touch, but I found the forehead strip yesterday afternoon (that was what gave the 39 reading) and then the basal body temperature one I used when I was charting, so I checked it with that instead in the night. He was up at 11.15pm, just before 1am, 2ish, 3.20am, 4am and 5am then got up for the day at 6.30am :(. He'd had diarrhoea when he was up at 11ish so I checked his temp again then, and it had gone down to 37, then this morning first thing it was back to 36.8 although I did give him more Calpol and baby ibuprofen in the night. I'd love to let him sleep as much as he wants but that's the problem - he doesn't seem able to! I've just given him Calpol and put him down for his morning nap and he's still up chatting to his cot pals and having the odd yell. I'm not sure if this is because he's so ridiculously overtired from the night, or because he's not 100%. What's roseola, TwoKids? He's had a rash on his cheeks on and off for a few days now but I thought that was from teething. I'll see how he is when he wakes up from his nap (if he ever goes to sleep!) and take him back to the doctor if he's still out of sorts and hot. <em>edited by DubaiCat on 03/10/2011</em>

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Latest post on 02 October 2011 - 22:22

Hi DC, a month ago my DS, then 9 months had a fever of 38 out of the blue and was generally out of sorts. I let him sleep a lot and gave him some panadol. A few days later he broke out into a rash, so I realised that he had roseola. Hope your son is better soon:)

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Latest post on 02 October 2011 - 22:03

You know your son - is this pretty normal for him or is this very, very high? I'm just asking because DD will have a very high temperature at the drop of a hat (generally at the start of a cold) - she's a warm child anyway and her normal temp is 36.9/37, so anything under 38.5 hardly registers... if I notice she's hot, she's invariably already at 39-something and I only really get concerned if she gets to 39.9/40 (which she does quite often.). She always responds well to medication, so fevers aren't a worry... DS, on the other hand hardly ever gets fevers, so I get concerned when he's at 38... 39 and he's already down to a nappy and being dosed up.

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Latest post on 02 October 2011 - 20:50

Thank you both :). DH, of course, has just left for Saudi so I'm on my own and was a bit worried. I'll keep an eye on him and see what happens. Naturally I can't find the baby monitor so it may have to be mattress on the floor time!

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Latest post on 02 October 2011 - 20:29

I think there is a difference between a temperature and a fever, I think a slight elevation in temperature (under about 38ish) can be caused by teeth, but anything over this is a fever and is related to an illness where they are trying to fight something off. My paediatrician has said to me that many people think a fever can be caused by teething, but that this is not correct - which is why I have interpretted what he said to mean the above - rightly or wrongly! If it helps, my DS and a few of his friends have just had a bit of a cold and slight cough, it caused an elevated temp, which was the first thing we noticed - DS got up to about 38.6 max, but he was VERY grizzly, hardly ate anything for 2-3 days - I didn't realise he had a little cold for a day or so into it, when his nose started running, and he got a bit of a cough, so your DS 'may' have something similar (all of DS's friends had the same symptoms). Not sure that helps, but hopefully he is feeling happier soon!

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Latest post on 02 October 2011 - 20:13

Yes. Teething can cause anything. DD is going through teething atm... high fever as well.. It will be over in a couple of days Good Luck S

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