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Latest post on 28 August 2011 - 12:07

We stopped swaddling as soon as LO could break free. Didnt see the point in continuing and was a good weight so went into a sleeping bag at 6 weeks. Didnt affect her sleep.

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Latest post on 28 August 2011 - 09:56

I swaddled Z till around the 5 month mark, only because she didn't mind it and never fought it. Then I decided to change her to a sleeping bag purely because I didn't know of any other babies her age still being swaddled (haha!). She transitioned brilliantly and I noticed no change in her sleeping. But I do believe she preferred it as the very first night I didn't swaddle her her little arms were spread out like she was flying and she just looked more comfy. :D Try it, can't hurt ;) Same here, I stopped swaddling at 5 months, and went cold turkey. Since his swaddle looked more like a restraining jacket he wasnt used to all this freedom so it took 3 days for him to stop startling himself and stay asleep. We tried a few times before to wean but than he would punch and scratch himself in the face constantly, he just wasnt ready to be weaned before 5 months.

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Latest post on 27 August 2011 - 23:34

Hi kiwispiers, your reply got me thinking and started to worry for a few nights so now have got him to sleep on his back which took a couple of nights, but he is very happy with this also and I sleep better too :) Thanks for pointing that out! I had read some on the subject but obviously not enough so got to read much more since your post and decided to go for the change :) Don't worry too much - when DH was a baby, the advice was to lie them on their tummies at night, then by the time I came along, the advice was to lie bubs on its side, alternating every night! My mum used to wedge me in place with a soft toy - eeek! :\:

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Latest post on 27 August 2011 - 23:30

Hi kiwispiers, your reply got me thinking and started to worry for a few nights so now have got him to sleep on his back which took a couple of nights, but he is very happy with this also and I sleep better too :) Thanks for pointing that out! I had read some on the subject but obviously not enough so got to read much more since your post and decided to go for the change :) pleased he managed to make the change and is still sleeping well, better safe than sorry :)

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Latest post on 27 August 2011 - 23:09

I swaddled my first and not my second as my first always use to wake up and try to get out.....my second she use to suck her hands to soothe herself and always slept better not being swaddled. My second was a much bettervsleeper as well. Def try not to swaddle him and see if he prefers it.

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Latest post on 27 August 2011 - 22:58

Hi kiwispiers, your reply got me thinking and started to worry for a few nights so now have got him to sleep on his back which took a couple of nights, but he is very happy with this also and I sleep better too :) Thanks for pointing that out! I had read some on the subject but obviously not enough so got to read much more since your post and decided to go for the change :)

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Latest post on 11 August 2011 - 20:15

SG that is EXACTLY how my guy was, super strong neck, loved his tummy time, it took him months to figure out he could sleep on his tummy which made bedtime quite difficult once he could roll over and we stopped swaddling because up would pop the little head, up he'd get on his hands and knees etc. He started crawling at 5 months, one of the side effects of lots of tummy-time. Brace yourself for an adventure ;)

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Latest post on 11 August 2011 - 20:05

not sure tummy sleeping would work for him...he loves tummy time and has a really strong neck that he keeps up the whole time, I don't think he realises he can put it down to rest LOL! He's quite happy on his back or side to sleep with his arms outstretched. Well he's down for the night and i'm off to bed to get some sleep while I can...wish us luck!!

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Latest post on 11 August 2011 - 16:41

sydneygal, I stopped swaddling DS as soon as he started kicking the blanket and ending up unwrapped, just past his 2nd month. Also for the night sleep: have you tried putting him on his tummy? According to the Baby Whisperer at that age they should sleep 10-12 hrs a night with naps of 1-2 hrs during the day. I put mine on his tummy once he had enough strength on his neck to turn his head and he stopped waking up at night to sleep 8 hours in one stretch. Now he has gone into sleeping an average of 10 hours a night, as indicated by Hogg. TB I would replace "should" with "might" in the above statement, I don't think you can really say how long a baby "should" sleep, mine did sleep that long at that age, although his daytime naps were only 45 minutes, but its a bit like the babycentre emails that say your baby should be crawling now, or rolling now etc, they are all different and you shouldn't feel like your baby is abnormal if they don't follow a pattern from a book. Be careful with tummy sleeping, your baby is at the peak of SIDs risk at around this age, its "probably" fine but still, be careful.

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Latest post on 11 August 2011 - 14:10

sydneygal, I stopped swaddling DS as soon as he started kicking the blanket and ending up unwrapped, just past his 2nd month. Also for the night sleep: have you tried putting him on his tummy? According to the Baby Whisperer at that age they should sleep 10-12 hrs a night with naps of 1-2 hrs during the day. I put mine on his tummy once he had enough strength on his neck to turn his head and he stopped waking up at night to sleep 8 hours in one stretch. Now he has gone into sleeping an average of 10 hours a night, as indicated by Hogg.

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Latest post on 11 August 2011 - 12:48

thanks greenish - hoping it's just a phase! Will try the dream feed for a few days and if it doesn't work I'll go back to his normal 1-3am feed. I do put him to sleep and tend to him on my own however for the last 2 weeks my MIL has been here and doing some of the night too and that unfortunately is not making much of a difference... will keep perservering!

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Latest post on 11 August 2011 - 11:44

It may be as I suggested below...'just' a typical phase that many babies go through at around 12-14 weeks. All three of mine were more unsettled at that time. My older daughter sorted herself after a couple of weeks of exhausting patting and shushing. My younger daughter, you don't want to know how long it took to sort! By all means try the dreamfeed again and see if it makes a difference. 180mL is a lot so maybe he is genuinely hungry. If however is doesn't soon make a difference to better sleep, maybe drop it again and go back to the patting/shushing? If he's gone a time without 'needing' a midnight snack, you may want to think hard before re-establishing a habit you may need to break again. Might also be that he just needs a few nights to get used to the new, comfy sleeping bag. Something else to think about...do you always get him to sleep and tend to him during the night? Just mixing it up by getting someone else to deal with the night wakings might also put a stop to it. <em>edited by Green-ish on 11/08/2011</em>

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Latest post on 11 August 2011 - 10:45

well he did ok in the sleeping bag...it was quite hilarious to watch him on the video monitor...all over the place, arms flying, legs up in the air, hands in his face! Did the dreamfeed too which he took (180ml) but was still doing his little wakings every few hours :( He's not waking for food just waking and falls asleep after a few pats and the dummy, except for the 4am mark where it takes alot longer for whatever reason...will try giving him a bit more at the dream feed tonight to see if that makes a difference...ahhh for a good nights sleep! Would appreciate any other tips! He's definitely comfy, temp is fine etc so I have no idea why he wakes so much!

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Latest post on 10 August 2011 - 11:19

try swaddling with his legs out of the little leg pocket, much harder for him to break free :) Probably a good idea to stop swaddling/dummies etc at around the 3 month mark anyway to avoid them becoming habit forming, try and replace with white noise if you can, not that I followed this advice as the swaddled/dummy sleeping was amazing at the time. ;)

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Latest post on 10 August 2011 - 10:53

thanks ladies...well the sleeping bag is in the wash now so we'll give it a try tonight. He takes a while to settle so could be difficult without being swaddled but we'll give it a go. He doesn't mind being swaddled it's just how he manages to wriggle free no matter how tight we wrap him (in the miracle swaddles too mind you!) so not sure this is waking him up. Who knows!! At this point I'm willing to try anything so wish us luck. Will try the dreamfeed too again tonight and see what happens...

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Latest post on 10 August 2011 - 10:17

I stopped swaddling his legs quite early on(we were using the miracle swaddles and he was a long baby) and that avoided issues of overheating and any worries about swaddling being bad for the hips. He did not settle well unswadded though and swaddling was an amazing sleep cue for us. We swaddling until he was 5 months and then had to stop abruptly as he was able to roll over so it was dangerous. He has never slept as well as he did when he was swaddled . They still have the startle reflex for a bit longer but all you can do is try stopping and see how it goes, nothing to lose, same with the dreamfeed. I used a safe-t-sleep wrap until he could roll both ways but soon as I let him, he became a tummy sleeper and still is. <em>edited by kiwispiers on 10/08/2011</em>

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Latest post on 10 August 2011 - 09:56

I swaddled Z till around the 5 month mark, only because she didn't mind it and never fought it. Then I decided to change her to a sleeping bag purely because I didn't know of any other babies her age still being swaddled (haha!). She transitioned brilliantly and I noticed no change in her sleeping. But I do believe she preferred it as the very first night I didn't swaddle her her little arms were spread out like she was flying and she just looked more comfy. :D Try it, can't hurt ;)

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Latest post on 10 August 2011 - 08:51

I stopped swaddling my little ones' arms in quite a bit earlier than 13 weeks (from foggy memory). Maybe try leaving his arms free and see if that makes a difference? With the dream feed...I reckon anything is worth trying if what's happening now isn't working for you. :) Give it a go and see if it makes a difference for him. Waking so often could be that he's too hot, too cold, hungry (less likely), thirsty, uncomfortable (swaddling?). It's going to be a bit of exhausting trial & error to sort it for him. He's also hit that age where they start to be a wee bit more aware of what's going on around them. Maybe he's just missing you and wants to know where you are? All three of mine had an unsettled phase around 12-14 weeks. I hope you're both getting more restful sleep soon. <em>edited by Green-ish on 10/08/2011</em>

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Latest post on 10 August 2011 - 08:37

Hi ladies, DS is now 13 weeks old and is a big boy - 65cm and 6.8kg. We've swaddled him from birth but I'm wondering when one should stop...he is now in his big cot, and is still waking alot during the night and I'm wondering if not swaddling him would make a difference...ie, is he fighting not being able to move around as much in the night? He is going down quite well around 7.30 but wakes almost every 2 hours at times. Usually goes back to sleep fairly quickly with his dummy but can fight himself out of the swaddle blanket very easily so often needs to be re wrapped. Look forward to your thoughts...Also he doesn't dream feed, usually feeds once between 1-3am, but wondering if he's waking earlier now whether I should try it again (have tried before unsuccessfully)... TIA! x

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