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Helper travelling with us - really overstepping the boundaries

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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 11 July 2012 - 12:28
Perhaps its the showing off - but probably not in a conceited sense. More like she just wants people to see she's good at what she does. I dont know if its arrogance either. I keep on thinking of her giving out the presents and I can liken her to one of mine doing that - and it would be plain happy daft caused by excitement. Dont send her back to Dubai. Keep her with you. The lady who previously travelled with me wouldnt always come out with us. Sometimes she just liked being in the house on her own watching TV, or she'd go across to my dads and play with the dogs. She would even go out at times on her own into town on the bus - we live in a small market town. She would come back and say she's seen mrs so and so on the bus and they'd had a natter. I think she felt really independent going on the bus into town and she'd come back and say to her friends that she knew her way around london (lol) and that she'd go out alone. We live 150 miles from London. :) She was there when I needed her and it suited us fine. eta - just make sure your children arent picking up in your disatisfaction just now and taking it as a chance to have a go at the maid. Yes your chastising them for it but some kids will take the telling off and be happy they were able to flex their muscles a bit. I speak from experience :) <em>edited by DesertRose1958 on 11/07/2012</em>
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 11 July 2012 - 11:23
Thats the confusing part D.R., she has travelled with us on 2 occasions before and we never had this experience with her. Maybe it's a bit of arrogance on her part and feeling she is indispensable and maybe a little bit of 'showing off' in front of our families. S.A, Babe, for family meals we try to make sure our kids eat with us, but we don't expect them to sit at the table for the duration, particularly while we have a long drawn out lunch, usually it's not a problem, but the excitement of getting together with their cousins makes for some crazy times. Anyway, that one is sorted out now as we have explained that she needs to eat before us, so that she can be available should we need her to help out at any point. CA, that must have been an awful situation for you. Sorry to hear about your friend, it must be dreadful to lose someone in such a manner. I am being a bit unfair really, as she has been a good help with getting settled into our house, it would have been tough to do it without having her around. We have done a few things in the last few days and I have not invited her to join us, while I feel bad about it, I think it's better for all of us not to be living in each others ears. I know there is not enough work to keep her occupied full time, but so be it! I was actually considering sending her back to Dubai early, but DH talked reason and convinced me otherwise, as it is a very nice convenience to have a trusted built in babysitter whenever I need it, and she is being well paid for it. Thanks everyone for all the advice and comments. edited by mum2girls on 11/07/2012 <em>edited by mum2girls on 11/07/2012</em>
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 11 July 2012 - 07:58
I've been thinking about this and I still think this girl was just being happy daft because she was travelling.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 10 July 2012 - 22:19
Just remind her of her position in your household, and why she is with you. Something like this happened to me last year. My maid, who has been with me for many years somehow forgot her place. We had gone to visit a dear friend of mine who has a terminal illness and is now unable to communicate. When we went in, my maid just plonked herself on the sofa and acted like my friend did not even exist. I took her to one side and said that the maid of that house was waiting for her in the kitchen. When we got home I told her that it was wrong on all levels, sitting herself down and then assuming that my ill friend was in a vegetative state…..then I told her that she had forgotten her role. I would never normally say things like this or need to, but I felt embarrassed and had to apologize to my friend. Since then if we are in a position that I think my maid may misunderstand, I remind her beforehand. This year she is not vacationing with us, as I do not need her and she needs to know that traveling the world with us is not to be taken for granted.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 July 2012 - 10:58
Our helper is travelling with us this summer, she has travelled with us on 2 occasions before and has always been fine, but this trip she seems to have totally lost the plot. We went to visit my nieces/nephew and had several bags of gifts for them, she carried some of the bags into the house while I carried the others, she went in first and runs to kiss and hug the kids before me, I'm like WTF, I could see their little heads trying to wriggle away from her and get to me and their cousins !!!, THEN she hands out the gifts to the nieces and nephew, which were gifts from my kids to their cousins, I couldn't believe what I was seeing! Had big family dinner at my in-laws, meeting my SIL's new partner for the first time, next thing our helper grabs a plate and sits down with all of us for dinner. At home she rarely sits with us and prefers to eat in her room. On our other trips she would eat at my IL's or parents kitchen table. Then the cousins gulp down their dinner and run off to play, the kids are so excited to be together and playing crazy. My SIL, hubby and I are up and down from the table intervening with the kids, "be careful' 'don't throw that' 'let the little one's join in', 'don't open the gate' etc. etc. She is sitting there with the family, helping herself to seconds, and does not make a single attempt to get up, until my husband has to ask her if she would 'mind' supervising the kids so SIL and I can finish our dinner and then she can finish eating when we are done. The same day, all the family are sitting outside on the terrace and my little one fell fast asleep, mid-afternoon, we had just arrived the previous day so we were letting her have a nap. Our maid, walked right through the middle of our group, and started to wake up my DD, without even asking me or DH if that was what we wanted. Even when our maid is on top form, she is the least proactive person I have ever met, I mean why start now and why start with a sleeping kid ! DD1 is getting really irritated with her too, I can't count the number of times the kids have asked me something and she will answer or butt in. Three times now in less than a week, DD1 has been punished for being rude to her with comments such as "I was not speaking to you!", "Mom, can you tell X to stop butting in when we are speaking!" last one was "I am speaking to my Mom, it's not your business" said with in a massively irritated and loud tone. Oh and then plonking herself in the garden chatting to my FIL, when it was pretty clear that all he wanted to do was read the newspaper ! She was supposed to be a big help, we are moving into a new house and I thought it would be a great asset to have her. I feel bad leaving her at home when we are heading off, so we always give her the choice, she can have the time off at home or join us and she always decides to come along. I am sure I am doing something wrong along the way to have it get to this point, but have enough hassle with the house move and don't need to be dealing with a cocky maid. Ugh, grant me patience ! edited by mum2girls on 09/07/2012 You posted previously about paying her extra for working while on holiday and about the fact that she didn't want a day off - so why is she confused now about what she is there for?
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 09 July 2012 - 21:24
Posts like this [b'>make me so angry[/b'> You'll be spitting feathers then?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 09 July 2012 - 21:22
Posts like this [b'>make me so angry[/b'>
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 09 July 2012 - 21:16
The maid wont recognise the boundaries unless you point them out to her, so thats something you're going to have to do. But in all honestly she comes across as being all excited to be on holiday and probably has it mixed up in her head with going on holiday to the Phillipines. These ladies will only ever behave they way they are allowed to. I go to the Uk to my own house so anyone who comes with me knows they are still working ...... but when we go for a day out they come as well because it is an experience for them. If we were going to a relatives house to stay I would imagine they'd be really confused as to what they were - maid working in a different house, or guest in a house because they dont work for the family the house belongs to. Tell her she is still working. I still cant help but feel that she's just being happy daft because she's travelling. Oh and its really nice your dd was punished for talking to her they way she did. It was out of order but I can imagine she was feeling fed up. <em>edited by DesertRose1958 on 09/07/2012</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 09 July 2012 - 17:26
sounds like she considers herself family tho that said - when my freinds and family get together we usually sort out the kids first then we sit down to eat sometimes i think helpers have a better deal uninterupted meals, afternoons off, actual lunch breaks and whole days off on the weekend even with a helper i feel like a work 24/7 7days a week!
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 09 July 2012 - 17:14
Sounds like she is on her holidays. I would put her straight asap.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 09 July 2012 - 14:58
She was supposed to be a big help, we are moving into a new house and I thought it would be a great asset to have her. I feel bad leaving her at home when we are heading off, so we always give her the choice, she can have the time off at home or join us and she always decides to come along. Well there is your answer! She thinks she is on holiday. I always made it quiet clear to my maids that when they travel with me, they are working. When they go back to the Philipines, they are on holiday. If you are paying her to work, regardless of where she is, she should work. Make it clear to her now before she ruins your whole holiday
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 09 July 2012 - 14:35
Our helper is travelling with us this summer, she has travelled with us on 2 occasions before and has always been fine, but this trip she seems to have totally lost the plot. We went to visit my nieces/nephew and had several bags of gifts for them, she carried some of the bags into the house while I carried the others, she went in first and runs to kiss and hug the kids before me, I'm like WTF, I could see their little heads trying to wriggle away from her and get to me and their cousins !!!, THEN she hands out the gifts to the nieces and nephew, which were gifts from my kids to their cousins, I couldn't believe what I was seeing! Had big family dinner at my in-laws, meeting my SIL's new partner for the first time, next thing our helper grabs a plate and sits down with all of us for dinner. At home she rarely sits with us and prefers to eat in her room. On our other trips she would eat at my IL's or parents kitchen table. Then the cousins gulp down their dinner and run off to play, the kids are so excited to be together and playing crazy. My SIL, hubby and I are up and down from the table intervening with the kids, "be careful' 'don't throw that' 'let the little one's join in', 'don't open the gate' etc. etc. She is sitting there with the family, helping herself to seconds, and does not make a single attempt to get up, until my husband has to ask her if she would 'mind' supervising the kids so SIL and I can finish our dinner and then she can finish eating when we are done. The same day, all the family are sitting outside on the terrace and my little one fell fast asleep, mid-afternoon, we had just arrived the previous day so we were letting her have a nap. Our maid, walked right through the middle of our group, and started to wake up my DD, without even asking me or DH if that was what we wanted. Even when our maid is on top form, she is the least proactive person I have ever met, I mean why start now and why start with a sleeping kid ! DD1 is getting really irritated with her too, I can't count the number of times the kids have asked me something and she will answer or butt in. Three times now in less than a week, DD1 has been punished for being rude to her with comments such as "I was not speaking to you!", "Mom, can you tell X to stop butting in when we are speaking!" last one was "I am speaking to my Mom, it's not your business" said with in a massively irritated and loud tone. Oh and then plonking herself in the garden chatting to my FIL, when it was pretty clear that all he wanted to do was read the newspaper ! She was supposed to be a big help, we are moving into a new house and I thought it would be a great asset to have her. I feel bad leaving her at home when we are heading off, so we always give her the choice, she can have the time off at home or join us and she always decides to come along. I am sure I am doing something wrong along the way to have it get to this point, but have enough hassle with the house move and don't need to be dealing with a cocky maid. Ugh, grant me patience ! <em>edited by mum2girls on 09/07/2012</em>
 
 

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