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Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:07

I am at a loss as to what to do at pedestrain crossings here. I want to stop and let the pedestrian cross (the law back home) but here I risk another car up my bottom or at least angry tooting. I don't see other drivers stop. It is probably safer to keep driving but I feel awful, especially on very hot or windy sandy days when I am sitting in the comfort of my air-conditioned car and the poor pedestrain who I assume [b]should[/b] have right of way (or do i assume wrongly), is left standing there. What do you do?

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Latest post on 05 February 2011 - 15:19

I put my hazards on when I see someone waiting, so the car behind me doesn't rear-end me! I emailed the RTA to ask them to consider moving the crossings.....WHY are they RIGHT on the roundabouts, when drivers are looking for an entry and exit gap!? In the Greens for example, if they moved the zebras a few metres back from the roundabouts it would be so much safer. I got "your email has been received and the issue dealt with" (not) Sigh....

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Latest post on 05 February 2011 - 15:16

THe tactic I use if I can see someone at the crossing is to stop regardless. If I am in the right lane I put my window down and flag the car in the left lane if it looks like they are not stopping.. Pedestrians should be in no danger if I stop, provided they do not blindly cross the road and look at the second lane also - let's face it "Common Sense". I find it totally crazy that people use the 'what if the other guy doesn't stop' as an excuse for themselves not to stop.. do we all stoop to the lowest common denominator? This is how this terrible behaviour is perpetuated. Also, if someone is tailgaiting, slow down in a slow controlled manner and don't brake at the last minute. There is way to much 're-active' driving here and not enough 'pro-active' driving. I can also state in my experience here that this applies to ALL nationalities and not just one segment of the population. It is a shame that the police do not consider it part of their job to 'police' such behaviour.. <em>edited by famn on 05/02/2011</em>

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Latest post on 05 February 2011 - 15:06

I doubt there'a law to stop - if you notice there are no belisha beacons or real notices to tell cars to stop - it's a case of doing what you feel is safest in the situation really. - it's not the law to Buckle Up your children here so I can't see there one about stopping at pedestrian crossings! the law here is to stop. Then why dont they ???:\:

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Latest post on 05 February 2011 - 13:56

I doubt there'a law to stop - if you notice there are no belisha beacons or real notices to tell cars to stop - it's a case of doing what you feel is safest in the situation really. - it's not the law to Buckle Up your children here so I can't see there one about stopping at pedestrian crossings! the law here is to stop.

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Latest post on 05 February 2011 - 13:41

Thanks for the info tkoshy. Do they give you any tips for making this safer? Thank you everyone for your comments. Not sure that I have found an answer, but does seem that if I stop at least I am not breaking the law. Unbelievable how selfish and unthinking a lot of people here get when they get in their car, especially given that pedestrians and school children are at risk.

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EW EXPLORER

Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 21:12

Just wanted to say that by law, a driver is supposed to stop for pedestrians. It is taught at driving schools and emphasized by instructors. Just not followed by anyone in reality.

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Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:45

you should always stop.... A pedestrian crossing is just that...... Also bear in mind that if you hit the pedestrian you can be liable for blood money, so if common curtsey does make you inclined to stop perhaps the 200k will. As someone who walks a lot, it really grates that drivers don't stop and half the time don't even indicate when they are turning into a road you are crossing. Should also bear in mind that you can also get fined if the pedestrian calls the cops and reports it. It is not really as easy as just having common curtesty Izzy. If it were just about that I would [b'>aways[/b'> stop. The dilema is, that often it is potentially [b'>unsafe[/b'> to stop both for the driver and the pedestrian (as illustrated by other posters). Drivers here, is seems, do not expect someone to be stopping. If my car gets rammed from behind because the driver behind is unprepared for the driver in front to stop, then even if the pedestrain has not started walking, there is still a good chance that they could end up being injured from the knock on. Is it [b'>definatley[/b'> the law? Because I have seen police cars sail past pedestrians. If it is not actually the law then I guess if an accident were to happen as the driver that stopped the flow of traffic i would be liable. Hence the dilema. I want to stop but I dont want an accident. Some times it is clear cut. I dont stop if someone is tailgating, that's asking for trouble. I do stop if there is no one immediately behind me. But sometimes it is a hard call, which is why I wrote the post. edited by MsHari on 04/02/2011 <em>edited by MsHari on 04/02/2011</em>

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Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:29

It is a tough choice for me as well, as I have encountered similar situations like you. It depends on where and the circumstances. But I know when I probably won't stop. When I se the traffic behind me is coming fast (especially when it's going around the corner) or when the lane is wide enough for an impatient car to pass which can put the crossing pedestrians in danger. As an aside, what about the yellow/orange school buses? I had always been taught to stop when the "stop" sign sticks out, so I would stop and cars behind me start honking or overtake me! Completely flabbergasted! :\:

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Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:17

I doubt there'a law to stop - if you notice there are no belisha beacons or real notices to tell cars to stop - it's a case of doing what you feel is safest in the situation really. - it's not the law to Buckle Up your children here so I can't see there one about stopping at pedestrian crossings!

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Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:17

speaking as a pedestrian here, while I am grateful for those that do stop, I never assume that we will be safe on the crossing. Too many impatient '[people'> will overtake a stopped car at a crossing and attempt to run me down. I have no clue what the rule is here, but i have come to veiw the crossings as purely decorative.:(

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Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:16

I only stop to let them cross if there is no other car in the other lane - too often I've seen people crossing only to be almost mowed down by the car in the outside lane who has no intention of crossing. so here - really the pedestrians do not have the right of way - make a judgement - if it's safe to stop and let them cross do so - if not.... carry on

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Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:16

you should always stop.... A pedestrian crossing is just that...... Also bear in mind that if you hit the pedestrian you can be liable for blood money, so if common curtsey does make you inclined to stop perhaps the 200k will. As someone who walks a lot, it really grates that drivers don't stop and half the time don't even indicate when they are turning into a road you are crossing. Should also bear in mind that you can also get fined if the pedestrian calls the cops and reports it.

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:15

Glad someone else does Lesley - I thought I was the only one! LOL Do you happen to know if it is the law to stop or not?

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Latest post on 04 February 2011 - 10:12

Angry tooting by another car is nothing to worry about - they toot at every opportunity. I stop and let the pedestrian pass as long as it doesn't stop the flow of traffic on a busy road, that's the only time it's probably safer to keep going.

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