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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:33
Company has to pay the full cost of a packer like any other expat employee, its all about profit and reducing costs. The company will not refund the customer if they pack themselves. Business is business and profit is the name of the game. Shops do not give complimentary services, they may try and use the term but don't be fooled to think it is complimentary. We the customer pay for it all in one way or another. profit profit profit is all they are interested in and best way to achieve it, which in some stores include packers. In busy stores and peak times it moves faster if there are packers on most tills. There has been a big slow down at carrefour since they reduced the numbers of check out packers in M O E nearly 3 years ago. Takes people longer to get through the tills than before but company is cutting costs to increase its profit. if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... so how much do you have to pay the packer ?? and how much do you get refunded if you pack yourself ?? edited by Sue62 on 03/04/2011
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:32
lol I have three small kids and I have days when I want to kill someone but thats what the hubbys are for not someone who is prob working for a pittance
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:31
please answer me jewels - if the service is "not complimentary", how much do we pay to the packer and how much do we get refunded if we pack ourselves ??
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:31
Shops do not give complimentary services, they may try and use the term but don't be fooled to think it is complimentary. We the customer pay for it all in one way or another. profit profit profit is all they are interested in and best way to achieve it, which in some stores include packers. In busy stores and peak times it moves faster if there are packers on most tills. There has been a big slow down at carrefour since they reduced the numbers of check out packers in M O E nearly 3 years ago. Takes people longer to get through the tills than before but company is cutting costs to increase its profit. Well I normally give whatever change I have to hand, which of course is on top of the percentage from my groceries which Mr Big Supermarket boss has determined will be earmarked for said packer come trolley collector come till boy come whatever. No? if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... so how much do you have to pay the packer ??
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:30
yes, they cannot not be in two places at once, shop needs more staff and less profit. Evident she was rude but I try and think of when i have had a bad day when my children were small and maybe behaved badly at some point and regretted later on . Good that Corkshelly said something in reply to her comment, so hope will help her see she was wrong.. if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... so they do it in their free time when they are off the clock? You the customer pay the wages of the supermarket staff, however they spend their time. No? But if the poor guy had been told to collect trolleys from outside, how could he be in 2 places at once?!!! We all might differ in our views on this but the fact that the lady in question was so rude is inexcusable!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:26
Shops do not give complimentary services, they may try and use the term but don't be fooled to think it is complimentary. We the customer pay for it all in one way or another. profit profit profit is all they are interested in and best way to achieve it, which in some stores include packers. In busy stores and peak times it moves faster if there are packers on most tills. There has been a big slow down at carrefour since they reduced the numbers of check out packers in M O E nearly 3 years ago. Takes people longer to get through the tills than before but company is cutting costs to increase its profit. if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... Ah yes, but back to my point about people packing their own stuff instead of waiting for the checkout assistants to do it. I'm sorry but any which way you try and spin it, there is no excuse for sheer laziness and rudeness.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:26
Shops do not give complimentary services, they may try and use the term but don't be fooled to think it is complimentary. We the customer pay for it all in one way or another. profit profit profit is all they are interested in and best way to achieve it, which in some stores include packers. In busy stores and peak times it moves faster if there are packers on most tills. There has been a big slow down at carrefour since they reduced the numbers of check out packers in M O E nearly 3 years ago. Takes people longer to get through the tills than before but company is cutting costs to increase its profit. if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... so how much do you have to pay the packer ?? and how much do you get refunded if you pack yourself ?? <em>edited by Sue62 on 03/04/2011</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:24
Shops do not give complimentary services, they may try and use the term but don't be fooled to think it is complimentary. We the customer pay for it all in one way or another. profit profit profit is all they are interested in and best way to achieve it, which in some stores include packers. In busy stores and peak times it moves faster if there are packers on most tills. There has been a big slow down at carrefour since they reduced the numbers of check out packers in M O E nearly 3 years ago. Takes people longer to get through the tills than before but company is cutting costs to increase its profit. if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till...
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:23
Syd Gal Its called multi tasking he was not at the till cos he was collecting trolleys which people leave scattered around the car park and I have seen the same gut ofloading goods from the trucks as well...so he has a variety of jobs to do
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:21
if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... so they do it in their free time when they are off the clock? You the customer pay the wages of the supermarket staff, however they spend their time. No? But if the poor guy had been told to collect trolleys from outside, how could he be in 2 places at once?!!! We all might differ in our views on this but the fact that the lady in question was so rude is inexcusable!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:21
if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... so they do it in their free time when they are off the clock? You the customer pay the wages of the supermarket staff, however they spend their time. No? The customer pays for the goods - it's the supermarket's job to pay the staff, and the packers are the same people you see on the tills - all part of the same job. No ?
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:21
if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... so they do it in their free time when they are off the clock? You the customer pay the wages of the supermarket staff, however they spend their time. No? No they get rotated around, sometimes on the checkout, sometimes packing! Get it? No?! <em>edited by Chocs01 on 03/04/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:19
if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till... so they do it in their free time when they are off the clock? You the customer pay the wages of the supermarket staff, however they spend their time. No?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:19
Jewels my last post about the labels were deleted by the mods prob because of the words I used lol I think about this privilege means if the guys are around they will do it but its not guaranteed that there will be someone to do it and as I said the checkout girl was after packing this was about her being to lazy to put them in the trolley
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:18
I'd be interested to see in 20 years time what the statistics are amongst Expat Women for osteoporosis. There's a whole generation of people who are incapable of doing any weight bearing activity whatsoever, to a point where some people don't even PUSH their own trolleys to the car, never mind LOAD them up with grocery bags. I'm surprised we haven't all got bones like calcified dog poop. I'm in the camp of 'lay off my groceries, I can do it myself'. I've had too many squashed peaches and broken biscuits to want anybody else packing my bags for me. As for having a tanty ranty about it all over the shop, that woman sounds like a simpleton. LOOOOOL Yes, they'll all be like the humans in the film Wall-E! Boneless blobs of useless flesh floating around in electronic wheelchairs.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:17
I do not recall you using choice words so shame it got deleted but definitely a good story to keep telling and keeps us laughing. She was eastern european which was why I was so surprised !!!!!!! Jewels I think the mods deleted them cos of the choice words I used lol I still laugh corkshelly when you wrote on the thread what you did with the mean labels, it was so funny but think you must have deleted your postings afterwards. i want to go back to re read and continue laughing.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:15
if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? you aren't (if we're still talking about packing lol) packing is a complimentary service - the staff are the same people you see at other times on the till...
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:15
if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege? Because they don't have to employ them! I wish people would stop trying to find justification for their laziness - just get on with it and stop moaning!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:15
I'd be interested to see in 20 years time what the statistics are amongst Expat Women for osteoporosis. There's a whole generation of people who are incapable of doing any weight bearing activity whatsoever, to a point where some people don't even PUSH their own trolleys to the car, never mind LOAD them up with grocery bags. I'm surprised we haven't all got bones like calcified dog poop. I'm in the camp of 'lay off my groceries, I can do it myself'. I've had too many squashed peaches and broken biscuits to want anybody else packing my bags for me. As for having a tanty ranty about it all over the shop, that woman sounds like a simpleton.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:14
Why a privilege ? It is a service and one is paying for the service in the cost of items purchased. No, the bag packers are a privilege not a right. I can't stand those that go to the checkout where there isn't a packer and stand there, then expecting the checkout assistant to pack the bags - that's not their job! Plus these ignorant people are holding up the queue! If they did it themselves, things would move faster, but no they act like spoilt brats! On several occassions I've piped up and asked if they'd like me to pack their shopping as they seem incapable of doing it themselves - usually embarrasses them enough to get on with it.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:13
if you are paying for it, how is it a privilege?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:13
Id think you would find tesco workers would have a lot more rights than workers here.I mean if the supervisor had gone with her story that poor girl could have lost her job for no reason Exactly! The Tesco's guys would laugh in your face for being so pathetic and rightly so. That's why I am so glad you spoke up, I dread to think what would have happened if the manager had been forced to take action on that silly woman's word alone. Some people make me, well, Grrrrrrr!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:12
My, good you Corkshelly, you had the opportunity to tell the woman and the guts to as most would not. I feel sorry for the woman as very very evident she was having a really bad day, and could not control herself. Who knows what happened to her today , hopefully she has recovered and will see the error of her ways. Having said that depending on her nationality will also depend on her expectations and why she gave the comment she did to you. She may have been brought up with all the help all her life and does not know how western world works. She was eastern european which was why I was so surprised !!!!!!! Jewels I think the mods deleted them cos of the choice words I used lol I still laugh corkshelly when you wrote on the thread what you did with the mean labels, it was so funny but think you must have deleted your postings afterwards. i want to go back to re read and continue laughing. While at the checkout in Le Marche in AR today with my DD.I couldnt help overhear a heated voice at the next checkout to me.This woman who was paying was giving out to the cashier because there was no packer there to put her bags from the checkout into her trolley.In fairness the checkout girl was apolegetic saying there was no one around cos he was outside getting trollies...this woman got in a madness saying how could she be expected o put her bags ina trolley because she had a toddler with her who was sitting ina trolley:\: Then the poor guy comes in wheeling trolleys and she marches over to him to tell him put the bags in which he does and this point my jaw is dropping.then she gives him grief about the way he puts the bags in... then she goes to the supervisor to complain he comes over to the checkout to give the staff grief I was now in front of ELC to see what was going to happen and the woman spots me and says ask her how rude the staff were so of course I told the woman she was probably on on the most rudest ignorant people I have ever seen so I said this to the supervisor!!! Then she followed me out and said is because of people like you Dubai is turning the way it is :\:.It took me all I could not too smack her one.. Im still gobsmacked
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:09
mmmmmmmmmm supermarket employs packer. customer pays supermarket. is customer therefore not entitled to services of packer, cos she's paying for it. No? I thought you paid the supermarket for your [i'>groceries[/i'>... a packer is an added bonus (although to be fair I pack myself as no-one packs as well as I do, haha!). Hope the poor lady never comes to the UK with her toddler, how [i'>would[/i'> she cope?! I'm in the UK, I have a toddler and I can pack my bags myself, goodness, aren't I amazing?! Perhaps I should throw a wobbler in Tesco's and see what happens, lol!! corkshelly, good on you for speaking up, a lot would have thought the same but not dared to speak up. Well you pay the supermarket for the groceries, their overheads and profits. No? anyway tesco's is easy, just do it online. No? No, the bag packers are a privilege not a right. I can't stand those that go to the checkout where there isn't a packer and stand there, then expecting the checkout assistant to pack the bags - that's not their job! Plus these ignorant people are holding up the queue! If they did it themselves, things would move faster, but no they act like spoilt brats! On several occassions I've piped up and asked if they'd like me to pack their shopping as they seem incapable of doing it themselves - usually embarrasses them enough to get on with it.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:09
My, good you Corkshelly, you had the opportunity to tell the woman and the guts to as most would not. I feel sorry for the woman as very very evident she was having a really bad day, and could not control herself. Who knows what happened to her today , hopefully she has recovered and will see the error of her ways. Having said that depending on her nationality will also depend on her expectations and why she gave the comment she did to you. She may have been brought up with all the help all her life and does not know how western world works. I still laugh corkshelly when you wrote on another thread what you did with the meat labels when you worked some where , it was so funny but think you must have deleted your postings afterwards. I want to go back to re read and continue laughing. While at the checkout in Le Marche in AR today with my DD.I couldnt help overhear a heated voice at the next checkout to me.This woman who was paying was giving out to the cashier because there was no packer there to put her bags from the checkout into her trolley.In fairness the checkout girl was apolegetic saying there was no one around cos he was outside getting trollies...this woman got in a madness saying how could she be expected o put her bags ina trolley because she had a toddler with her who was sitting ina trolley:\: Then the poor guy comes in wheeling trolleys and she marches over to him to tell him put the bags in which he does and this point my jaw is dropping.then she gives him grief about the way he puts the bags in... then she goes to the supervisor to complain he comes over to the checkout to give the staff grief I was now in front of ELC to see what was going to happen and the woman spots me and says ask her how rude the staff were so of course I told the woman she was probably on on the most rudest ignorant people I have ever seen so I said this to the supervisor!!! Then she followed me out and said is because of people like you Dubai is turning the way it is :\:.It took me all I could not too smack her one.. Im still gobsmacked <em>edited by jewelsmiddle on 03/04/2011</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:09
mmmmmmmmmm supermarket employs packer. customer pays supermarket. is customer therefore not entitled to services of packer, cos she's paying for it. No? I thought you paid the supermarket for your [i'>groceries[/i'>... a packer is an added bonus (although to be fair I pack myself as no-one packs as well as I do, haha!). Hope the poor lady never comes to the UK with her toddler, how [i'>would[/i'> she cope?! I'm in the UK, I have a toddler and I can pack my bags myself, goodness, aren't I amazing?! Perhaps I should throw a wobbler in Tesco's and see what happens, lol!! corkshelly, good on you for speaking up, a lot would have thought the same but not dared to speak up. Well you pay the supermarket for the groceries, their overheads and profits. No? anyway tesco's is easy, just do it online. No? Ah, but as someone else says, packers are 'complimentary', not guaranteed. And Yes, I do do a lot online and bless 'em, the delivery guys in my area bring the crates inside from the van and help me (and toddler!) unload onto the kitchen worktops. However, if I do go for some bits and bobs into the actual shop, then I manage to pack myself, even with toddler in tow. If toddler sits in seat, and you have two working arms and can reach the conveyor belt then you are capable of doing it yourself without a churlish meltdown. No?! Or was it you, lol, and now are trying to justify your childish paddy?! :D
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:08
Fancy being that far up your own a r s e that you can't pack your own groceries. Before living in Dubai she was probably Trailer Trash, now she thinks she's all that. Wrong!!! <em>edited by shellly on 03/04/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:07
Id think you would find tesco workers would have a lot more rights than workers here.I mean if the supervisor had gone with her story that poor girl could have lost her job for no reason
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 21:03
mmmmmmmmmm supermarket employs packer. customer pays supermarket. is customer therefore not entitled to services of packer, cos she's paying for it. No? I thought you paid the supermarket for your [i'>groceries[/i'>... a packer is an added bonus (although to be fair I pack myself as no-one packs as well as I do, haha!). Hope the poor lady never comes to the UK with her toddler, how [i'>would[/i'> she cope?! I'm in the UK, I have a toddler and I can pack my bags myself, goodness, aren't I amazing?! Perhaps I should throw a wobbler in Tesco's and see what happens, lol!! corkshelly, good on you for speaking up, a lot would have thought the same but not dared to speak up. Well you pay the supermarket for the groceries, their overheads and profits. No? anyway tesco's is easy, just do it online. No?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 April 2011 - 20:58
mmmmmmmmmm supermarket employs packer. customer pays supermarket. is customer therefore not entitled to services of packer, cos she's paying for it. No? I thought you paid the supermarket for your [i'>groceries[/i'>... a packer is an added bonus (although to be fair I pack myself as no-one packs as well as I do, haha!). Hope the poor lady never comes to the UK with her toddler, how [i'>would[/i'> she cope?! I'm in the UK, I have a toddler and I can pack my bags myself, goodness, aren't I amazing?! Perhaps I should throw a wobbler in Tesco's and see what happens, lol!! corkshelly, good on you for speaking up, a lot would have thought the same but not dared to speak up.
 
 

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