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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:36
How old is too old to call other people names like demented vultures when they don't agree with what you say? Hmm.. what was that about teaching young boys to show respect to women again? I think 12 year olds will behave better in a mall restroom, than some ladies on a public forum.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:27
Apologies to all the Muslim ladies on here, but lets just forget the cultural norm and say that it's normal to allow your young sons to go with you to the ladies, until YOU feel happy standing outside the gents while he's in there. Doesn't matter it he's 7 or 10, it's purely a personal decision only a mother can make.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:24
Would all of you please stop hovering around your children like a bunch if demented vultures. Instead, try teaching them to be self-sufficient. No wonder there are so many children wandering around without a lick of common sense. It's kind of difficult to acquire good instincts when your parents hover over you constantly in order to "keep you safe". "demented vultures" lol, you don't have very good manners do you Irish? How old are your children, your comments have the feeling of one of those judgemental childless "experts". The world is "no longer" a safe place Irish. Children have to be protected and more so now in this day and age. I hardly think not wanting a young boy to go into the men's toilets here alone constitutes "hovering around your children" I think it shows good parenting
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:22
Would all of you please stop hovering around your children like a bunch if demented vultures. Instead, try teaching them to be self-sufficient. No wonder there are so many children wandering around without a lick of common sense. It's kind of difficult to acquire good instincts when your parents hover over you constantly in order to "keep you safe". Irish you are being very disrespectful. Who are you to judge mothers who's job it is to keep their children safe? There is a very good reason mothers (and fathers) keep their children close, and not wanting them to go to the bathroom alone (where a lot of c*** can happen to kids) is their right. Other than that, it is acceptable here, in the religious and cultural norms, for boys to be among women until they have reached puberty. I hope you don't teach your kids to disrespect people the way you do. THAT is not going to get them very far in life.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:21
Sorry but lack of common sense and keeping your kids safe, just don't go. There will be any number of young boys out there with loads of common sense, who's Mums just want to make sure they're safe. You obviously have no concept of the types of male predators around, the world over. It doesn't bother me in the slightest, I would rather them be safe. The world has changed since we were young unfortunately. True, but things like this still went on then, and no one was so hung up about young children in the ladies ! <em>edited by Geordie expat on 25/06/2014</em>
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:18
Sorry but lack of common sense and keeping your kids safe, just don't go. There will be any number of young boys out there with loads of common sense, who's Mums just want to make sure they're safe. You obviously have no concept of the types of male predators around, the world over. It doesn't bother me in the slightest, I would rather them be safe. The world has changed since we were young unfortunately.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:17
Would all of you please stop hovering around your children like a bunch if demented vultures. Instead, try teaching them to be self-sufficient. No wonder there are so many children wandering around without a lick of common sense. It's kind of difficult to acquire good instincts when your parents hover over you constantly in order to "keep you safe". "demented vultures" lol, you don't have very good manners do you Irish? How old are your children, your comments have the feeling of one of those judgemental childless "experts".
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:07
Sorry but lack of common sense and keeping your kids safe, just don't go. There will be any number of young boys out there with loads of common sense, who's Mums just want to make sure they're safe. You obviously have no concept of the types of male predators around, the world over.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:07
I always feel uncomfortable if someone walks in with boy over 7. Even I understand these horror stories about kids being molested, but where is the edge? 12 yo can be molested too, but I hope you are not going to take 12 yo into the ladies toilet. It's not right! I think when they are at an age where you would let them go to the mall with friends without you, then they are old enough to use the public bathrooms without you as a chaperone. So I would not let a 9 year old walk around the mall alone, therefore I would expect it to be ok to escort him to the bathroom, which by default has to be the ladies because how uncomfortable would the men be if I went into the men's bathrooms with him (which is the alternative)?. Do you cover irish? Is that the issue, that an 8 year old would see you uncovered? What is the cut off for that? I can't see how there could be any other issue, and there is certainly not a "respect" issue here, but rather a privacy one. I think the men's toilets here don't have urinals do they? I can imagine that changes things a bit as in the west your little ones would be exposed to a bit more of an eyeful in the men's toilets. The men's do tend to be quite grotty here still, sometimes I send my son into the men's disabled rather than the females, and sometimes I have to go in there to wipe him and I pretty much want to bleach us both down afterwards!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 16:02
Would all of you please stop hovering around your children like a bunch if demented vultures. Instead, try teaching them to be self-sufficient. No wonder there are so many children wandering around without a lick of common sense. It's kind of difficult to acquire good instincts when your parents hover over you constantly in order to "keep you safe".
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 15:54
What is wrong with taking a boy between the ages of 7-12 into the public area of a ladies restroom?? Its not like he is in the cubicle with you. Quite. The older boys who accompany their mums/guardians into the ladies are no problem at all for me. As a rule, they're quiet, do their thing and want to leave as quickly as possible. It's the unattended toddlers that make me shriek. Literally. I do understand that little ones can be a handful, especially if you've got a few of them to deal with, but I accidentally stepped on a child who crawled under the cubicle door of the loo I was in (we BOTH shrieked) and there are still other occasions when inquisitive youngsters think it would be a really good idea to bang on all the doors or stick their hands into the cubicle etc etc ... No dramas. If I can't go to the bathroom 'by myself' at home (I live with curious dogs who think I've gone to Narnia when I close the bathroom door) I may as well deal with it in public as well. :D
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 15:47
I could just have seen my DS's face if I had insisted on him coming into the ladies loos with me after the age of about 7!! If we were out shopping or visiting a local wildlife park etc and DH wasn't with me, he went in himself and I stood outside. All I told him was to go into a cubicle rather than using a urinal. I took him with me as a toddler and even then he kicked up a row about being in a ladies toilet! I have 2 young nephews and they use public loos while their mums wait outside too. thank you. I thought I was the only one who sees it wrong. No, she is not saying it's wrong, she is saying that some boys hate to go into the ladies toilet, (as most boys at that age are allergic to girls) and that some mothers deal with it differently.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 15:42
Why would you feel uncomfortable? Before a child goes through puberty, they are just that, a child. I'm assuming you don't run around public toilets naked, why would you feel uncomfortable having a child see you wash your hands or apply your lipstick? well, follow your logic you can bring a man of any age, is not it? nothing wrong if he can see you washing hands. It's just so wrong! Boys must be taught to have respect to women from young age, including her privacy. Until a boy reaches puberty, by local custom and tradition he is allowed to see women uncovered. So by that logic he is allowed to enter a ladies toilet. That has nothing to do with teaching boys respect for women or her privacy as he has no concept of that! Plus, he is not going into the toilet with you is he? I am a covered woman and if a mother brings her 8 year old boy who has no concept of a woman's beauty, I have no issues with that. I have issues with women staring at me when I uncover and I don't know if she is going to tell her boyfriend/husband she saw a woman taking off her hijab and she looked like this (enter description).
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 15:27
I could just have seen my DS's face if I had insisted on him coming into the ladies loos with me after the age of about 7!! If we were out shopping or visiting a local wildlife park etc and DH wasn't with me, he went in himself and I stood outside. All I told him was to go into a cubicle rather than using a urinal. I took him with me as a toddler and even then he kicked up a row about being in a ladies toilet! I have 2 young nephews and they use public loos while their mums wait outside too. My six year old son [i'>hates[/i'> going in to the ladies with me. I couldn't care less what he thinks about it, it's my job to keep him safe and there have been numerous reports here of children being molested (and worse) in toilets. Imagine how many go unreported. Did your son grow up here? Are your nephews here? Children being preyed upon in public toilets seems to be much more prevalent here than in my home country.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 15:25
Why would you feel uncomfortable? Before a child goes through puberty, they are just that, a child. I'm assuming you don't run around public toilets naked, why would you feel uncomfortable having a child see you wash your hands or apply your lipstick? well, follow your logic you can bring a man of any age, is not it? nothing wrong if he can see you washing hands. It's just so wrong! Boys must be taught to have respect to women from young age, including her privacy. What exactly is wrong about it? I have no idea where respect comes into?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 14:35
I could just have seen my DS's face if I had insisted on him coming into the ladies loos with me after the age of about 7!! If we were out shopping or visiting a local wildlife park etc and DH wasn't with me, he went in himself and I stood outside. All I told him was to go into a cubicle rather than using a urinal. I took him with me as a toddler and even then he kicked up a row about being in a ladies toilet! I have 2 young nephews and they use public loos while their mums wait outside too. thank you. I thought I was the only one who sees it wrong.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 14:20
I could just have seen my DS's face if I had insisted on him coming into the ladies loos with me after the age of about 7!! If we were out shopping or visiting a local wildlife park etc and DH wasn't with me, he went in himself and I stood outside. All I told him was to go into a cubicle rather than using a urinal. I took him with me as a toddler and even then he kicked up a row about being in a ladies toilet! I have 2 young nephews and they use public loos while their mums wait outside too.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 13:49
What is wrong with taking a boy between the ages of 7-12 into the public area of a ladies restroom?? Its not like he is in the cubicle with you. Do you have children? Do you have a son? At the ages you describe they are still very much children.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 13:26
Yes and this could be one way of helping them do just that. Teach them that it's wrong to point and stare at women, no matter where they are or what they're doing. You never know what boys of this age can be shown by 'friends' and even before puberty they probably will be aware of the opposite s**. By doing this you can ensure that they show women respect in all circumstances. Anyway, as Daza said, what are they going to see in the ladies, apart from woman washing their hands and repairing their make up <em>edited by Geordie expat on 25/06/2014</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 13:18
Why would you feel uncomfortable? Before a child goes through puberty, they are just that, a child. I'm assuming you don't run around public toilets naked, why would you feel uncomfortable having a child see you wash your hands or apply your lipstick? well, follow your logic you can bring a man of any age, is not it? nothing wrong if he can see you washing hands. It's just so wrong! Boys must be taught to have respect to women from young age, including her privacy.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 13:03
Why would you feel uncomfortable? Before a child goes through puberty, they are just that, a child. I'm assuming you don't run around public toilets naked, why would you feel uncomfortable having a child see you wash your hands or apply your lipstick? ETA: Irish259, I'm not having a go at you, I'm just genuinely perplexed as to why it would make anyone feel uncomfortable. It seems to be ascribing adult thoughts to children. <em>edited by Daza on 25/06/2014</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 12:56
I always feel uncomfortable if someone walks in with boy over 7. Even I understand these horror stories about kids being molested, but where is the edge? 12 yo can be molested too, but I hope you are not going to take 12 yo into the ladies toilet. It's not right!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 12:10
I read an article today in 7Days about children's toilet facilities where a mum mentioned she got dirty looks because she'd taken her 9 year old son into the ladies bathroom. She said she was too scared to let him go to the men's toilet alone. It got me thinking about how old is too old to take a boy into the ladies? I don't have children so I can't comment. I'm just genuinely interested for future reference! I don't have kids but I would say 12 It wouldn't bother me as I have a nephew and I remember my Sister taking him in as she didn't want him to use the Gents alone. Years ago it would of been safe but times have changed What do Dads do with their Daughters in this case? [b'>Dads[/b'> will send there [b'>Daughters[/b'> in ladie's, ladies are harmless compared to men Lo! What if she is really young I meant :-) My ex used to ask a much older woman, or a mother with kids around the same age, if he was ever out with the girls alone. Mind that was nearly 30 years ago. edited by Geordie expat on 25/06/2014 I have kept an eye on a few in my time and have been asked too
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 12:04
The Ministry of Social affairs seems to agree: http://7daysindubai.com/relief-parents-uae-ministry-calls-kids-toilets-malls/
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 11:55
It gets even more difficult when you're out with you're son, a young man of 23, and the disabled toilets are in the main body of the gents and ladies loos.. I wish there were separate ones that could be accessed by a mum and her big son, or a dad and his daughter. Its a blooming minefield.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 11:48
My husband would take my daughter to the separate disabled toilet rather than sending her to the ladies alone. (Obviously only if it was vacant and there were no disabled people waiting). This si the safest option. Some people dont mean any harm but I dont like my DD talking to strangers....
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 11:40
What if she is really young I meant :-) My daughter is 8 and I wouldn't want her going in to the men's toilet. When she was younger my husband used to take her, no problem.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 11:32
I still think 7 is so young but perhaps that is me :-) Nope, me too. And I'd rather risk a few dirty looks than risk something happening to one of my children.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 11:31
I read an article today in 7Days about children's toilet facilities where a mum mentioned she got dirty looks because she'd taken her 9 year old son into the ladies bathroom. She said she was too scared to let him go to the men's toilet alone. It got me thinking about how old is too old to take a boy into the ladies? I don't have children so I can't comment. I'm just genuinely interested for future reference! I don't have kids but I would say 12 It wouldn't bother me as I have a nephew and I remember my Sister taking him in as she didn't want him to use the Gents alone. Years ago it would of been safe but times have changed What do Dads do with their Daughters in this case? [b'>Dads[/b'> will send there [b'>Daughters[/b'> in ladie's, ladies are harmless compared to men Lo! What if she is really young I meant :-) My ex used to ask a much older woman, or a mother with kids around the same age, if he was ever out with the girls alone. Mind that was nearly 30 years ago. <em>edited by Geordie expat on 25/06/2014</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2014 - 11:31
At Dubai Ladies' Club boys are allowed until age 7... On Ladies' Days at Dubai municipality parks, the age is 4. (Just for info-- if I had a young son I wouldn't send him in alone to a men's public toilet!) Age 7 to be among women is generally the norm here, but there you are in a place where women are in swimwear. I think age 4 is crazy, if I had a 4 year old boy I'd expect to be able to take him anywhere, he's a baby! What you mention is not about going to the toilet, it's about going to the beach.
 
 

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