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Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 08:23

Ladies what is the American curriculum like compared to the UK one? I have my 7 year old girls in the UK curriculum and I'm finding it's too advanced for them. They're doing multiplication, division and subtraction in maths, for example - things I didn't learn until I was at least 9. I'm considering pulling them out of the UK curriculum as they are feeling discouraged. They're also the youngest in their class, being born in September. Your feedback is much appreciated.

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 21 October 2015 - 10:47

I'm American and have a very bad impression of American schools in the Middle East after a few experiences (although there are some good ones) because they often take advantage of the flexibility/freedom from a national curriculum to make a school that's simply weak and caters to families who don't want their kids to have to do anything difficult. I chose a British school for my daughter and an IB school for my son so that expectations and standards would be more clear from the beginning. My daughter is 6 now (December 2008) in second grade and it's been a perfect fit for her so far, but I actually feel that my son would need to be in Year 2 in the British school also because his writing and spelling skills are so weak (in other words, he would benefit from repeating grade 3 if we move him t his sister's school!) If I were you, I would get out of that school from what you described and find an IB PYP to put them into. It will be more relaxed than the British curriculum but more "guaranteed" to provide a good academic environment than an American school.

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EW GURU

Latest post on 21 October 2015 - 10:14

My son goes to PYP IB school and the curriculum is British, he's in primary year 1 , until now they are learning concepts, they use abacus evolve and a program called Numicon

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 20 October 2015 - 15:42

Hi Ginee, our 7 yr old is in American curriculum, and one of the oldest in class - Grd. 1. no multiplications or divisions yet, but lots of math concepts are being introduced for counting purposes, bigger and smaller numbers etc. I'm sure it will get more advanced as we progress in the year. Learning seem to be lots of fun for the kids!. Good luck in your decision! Tacktouk could you email me? ginneeginnee36 at hotm ail do t c om. I'd like to talk to you more about this sent you an email, you may remove yours

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 12:37

Hi Ginee, our 7 yr old is in American curriculum, and one of the oldest in class - Grd. 1. no multiplications or divisions yet, but lots of math concepts are being introduced for counting purposes, bigger and smaller numbers etc. I'm sure it will get more advanced as we progress in the year. Learning seem to be lots of fun for the kids!. Good luck in your decision! Tacktouk could you email me? ginneeginnee36 at hotm ail do t c om. I'd like to talk to you more about this

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 12:21

Hi Ginee, our 7 yr old is in American curriculum, and one of the oldest in class - Grd. 1. no multiplications or divisions yet, but lots of math concepts are being introduced for counting purposes, bigger and smaller numbers etc. I'm sure it will get more advanced as we progress in the year. Learning seem to be lots of fun for the kids!. Good luck in your decision!

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 12:00

I have no idea, ladies, LTS, yes, he should be punished, but I guess he was naive and didn't think it would be as bad as it actually is. I'm not sure I want them to repeat a year, because with that comes a stigma from their friends - they're at an age now where they might be teased about it. So if I'm going to move them, i may as well move them to the American curriculum if it's a more suitable curriculum. I just don't feel doing division and multiplication and being expected to take spelling tests each week is age appropriate for 7 year olds. My eldest, (by one minute) is coping (just), but the younger is shutting off - she gets frustrated and just turns her brain off and refuses to learn anything. They're both feeling discouraged. :( It depends on your school really, how they are managing it. In our school we have groups in each section based on ability levels for English and maths. Each group learns from their own teacher based on his/her ability so he/she is never under pressure to compete with the whole class and I must say this system is working very well for my 7 year old who is good at maths but struggles in English and writing. Your school should be supporting your kids if they are struggling. Have a chat with the teacher /management. See if she/he is willing to do anything to help, other than demoting them to a lower grade. If not, you can look for a better option. decision would be easier. Well that's part of the problem, C99, the school is a money-making oriented entity, that is their first and primary interest. My eldest's teacher is not just her teacher, she is the head of the primary section, so she is very busy and overwhelmed herself. The quality of care is just not there. Most of the time when we call to set an appointment, they don't answer the phone. We have a lot of complaints about the school. Too many to count. Another reason we're looking into an alternative school.

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EW GURU

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:40

I have no idea, ladies, LTS, yes, he should be punished, but I guess he was naive and didn't think it would be as bad as it actually is. I'm not sure I want them to repeat a year, because with that comes a stigma from their friends - they're at an age now where they might be teased about it. So if I'm going to move them, i may as well move them to the American curriculum if it's a more suitable curriculum. I just don't feel doing division and multiplication and being expected to take spelling tests each week is age appropriate for 7 year olds. My eldest, (by one minute) is coping (just), but the younger is shutting off - she gets frustrated and just turns her brain off and refuses to learn anything. They're both feeling discouraged. :( It depends on your school really, how they are managing it. In our school we have groups in each section based on ability levels for English and maths. Each group learns from their own teacher based on his/her ability so he/she is never under pressure to compete with the whole class and I must say this system is working very well for my 7 year old who is good at maths but struggles in English and writing. Your school should be supporting your kids if they are struggling. Have a chat with the teacher /management. See if she/he is willing to do anything to help, other than demoting them to a lower grade. If not, you can look for a better option. decision would be easier.

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:38

I have no idea, ladies, LTS, yes, he should be punished, but I guess he was naive and didn't think it would be as bad as it actually is. I'm not sure I want them to repeat a year, because with that comes a stigma from their friends - they're at an age now where they might be teased about it. So if I'm going to move them, i may as well move them to the American curriculum if it's a more suitable curriculum. I just don't feel doing division and multiplication and being expected to take spelling tests each week is age appropriate for 7 year olds. My eldest, (by one minute) is coping (just), but the younger is shutting off - she gets frustrated and just turns her brain off and refuses to learn anything. They're both feeling discouraged. :( a lot of it also has to do with the way the children are taught mathematical concepts... why not look at moving them to a less academic focused British curriculum? i'd recommend the school my children go to... where they do maths suited to their individual abilities... my eldest is in Year 4 but does math with Year 5 coz she's above average for her class... The problem is we're in Abu Dhabi, and i have no idea where to go. It's like a lucky dip.

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:37

I would also put them back a year. They are the youngest in the year above it would be much better to be the oldest in the year below (which would be the correct year for their age)

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:37

So in that case, wouldn't it be better to have them repeat? That will boost their confidence. You worry about the stigma associated with repeating but there is also a stigma associated with always being the "kid who can't do it". If they repeat or are demoted now, their peers will soon forget about it and they will make new friends. Yes you have a point and we are considering both options. But i want to see what the american curriculum has to offer as well.

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EW MASTER

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:32

So in that case, wouldn't it be better to have them repeat? That will boost their confidence. You worry about the stigma associated with repeating but there is also a stigma associated with always being the "kid who can't do it". If they repeat or are demoted now, their peers will soon forget about it and they will make new friends.

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:31

I have no idea, ladies, LTS, yes, he should be punished, but I guess he was naive and didn't think it would be as bad as it actually is. I'm not sure I want them to repeat a year, because with that comes a stigma from their friends - they're at an age now where they might be teased about it. So if I'm going to move them, i may as well move them to the American curriculum if it's a more suitable curriculum. I just don't feel doing division and multiplication and being expected to take spelling tests each week is age appropriate for 7 year olds. My eldest, (by one minute) is coping (just), but the younger is shutting off - she gets frustrated and just turns her brain off and refuses to learn anything. They're both feeling discouraged. :( a lot of it also has to do with the way the children are taught mathematical concepts... why not look at moving them to a less academic focused British curriculum? i'd recommend the school my children go to... where they do maths suited to their individual abilities... my eldest is in Year 4 but does math with Year 5 coz she's above average for her class...

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:24

I have no idea, ladies, LTS, yes, he should be punished, but I guess he was naive and didn't think it would be as bad as it actually is. I'm not sure I want them to repeat a year, because with that comes a stigma from their friends - they're at an age now where they might be teased about it. So if I'm going to move them, i may as well move them to the American curriculum if it's a more suitable curriculum. I just don't feel doing division and multiplication and being expected to take spelling tests each week is age appropriate for 7 year olds. My eldest, (by one minute) is coping (just), but the younger is shutting off - she gets frustrated and just turns her brain off and refuses to learn anything. They're both feeling discouraged. :(

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EW MASTER

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:18

It is also much easier to graduate from high school in the USA. You can graduate with all Ds! To my knowledge, there are only two real American high schools in Dubai.

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EW MASTER

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 11:12

Yes, you are right, loving the sun. There is actually no American curriculum per se. By American curriculum here, they basically mean that they will use American words, the grading system, and similar year groups, etc.

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Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 10:46

Firstly, why are your children the youngest? In the UK curriculum, September-born children are the oldest. I am American and would eventually like to put my children in an American-curriculum school. It starts a year later, which would mean that if your girls finish Year 3, they would go to Grade 3. Personally, I find the UK curriculum too advanced and I prefer the American one. However, eventually, things tend to even out and many American and British schools here change to IB for secondary. Because my husband insisted they be put in as the youngest :thinking: - I didn't want to. I want to see some examples, if possible, of the kind of work they're given as 7 year olds in the US curriculum. The perfect example of something your Husband should be punished for :) I always thought there wasn't one single US curriculum like there is in the UK? It might be best to go along to the school and ask to see what is going on in the class. I mean even in UK schools in Dubai there is a lot of variety between schools and some are more personalised than others. Some are more academic than others too. Mostly though I do think it might be worth repeating a year as that does seem very young to be in that year and potentially setting them up for "failure" all through their school life?

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EW MASTER

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 10:16

I am sorry. I actually don't have any examples of the American curriculum. Your girls should probably be in a lower year group. Would you consider having them repeat or demoting them rather than changing schools?

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 10:08

Firstly, why are your children the youngest? In the UK curriculum, September-born children are the oldest. I am American and would eventually like to put my children in an American-curriculum school. It starts a year later, which would mean that if your girls finish Year 3, they would go to Grade 3. Personally, I find the UK curriculum too advanced and I prefer the American one. However, eventually, things tend to even out and many American and British schools here change to IB for secondary. Because my husband insisted they be put in as the youngest :thinking: - I didn't want to. I want to see some examples, if possible, of the kind of work they're given as 7 year olds in the US curriculum.

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EW MASTER

Latest post on 19 October 2015 - 09:58

Firstly, why are your children the youngest? In the UK curriculum, September-born children are the oldest. I am American and would eventually like to put my children in an American-curriculum school. It starts a year later, which would mean that if your girls finish Year 3, they would go to Grade 3. Personally, I find the UK curriculum too advanced and I prefer the American one. However, eventually, things tend to even out and many American and British schools here change to IB for secondary.

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