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Latest post on 22 November 2011 - 13:12

If a girl wants to wear national dress for school on national day - what should she wear? She could wear a jalibiya - the brightly coloured embroidered dresses. Carrefour usually has lots

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EW EXPERT

Latest post on 22 November 2011 - 13:08

If a girl wants to wear national dress for school on national day - what should she wear? These flag dresses .. you know .. the one where the bottom is made up of the uae flag .. and she can wear the gold head dress. They sell them in Satwa ...

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 22 November 2011 - 12:59

If a girl wants to wear national dress for school on national day - what should she wear?

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 22 November 2011 - 12:30

Perhaps 'Ask Ali' can clear this up- after all, he is a UAE national and wears national dress all the time :) If anyone has Twitter I know he is on there, might be worth asking him to clarify??

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 16:16

Is it only a regulation here? I'm pretty sure I've seen footage of Sheikh Mohammed at Aintree in a morning suit. Yes he does and he looks rather dashing.

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 16:09

Is it only a regulation here? I'm pretty sure I've seen footage of Sheikh Mohammed at Aintree in a morning suit.

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 14:46

I hope this article will clarify the doubt if it is allowed to wear national dress by expats or not. According to this article, nationals have no issues in expats wearing national dress as long as people respect the tradition of UAE. http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/expatriates-reveal-why-they-adopt-uae-national-dress-and-customs For the national day celebration, it will be a pleasure to see all the children wearing national dress:)

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 14:28

... Ask any Emirati friend in the know. There is definitely an unofficial restriction on the Eqal in the UAE, non-GCC people cannot wear it. They can wear the thobe, the Hamdaniyya, the Ghatra but not the Eqal along with it. edited by Arch on 21/11/2011 Who is "in the know"? The one Emirati friend I have with whom I am still in contact says she is unaware of any such rule. I'm genuinely interested to know why there would be an issue with the wearing of the agal, but not the rest of the local clothing. Is there a specific reason Arch? (and I mean no disrespect in asking)

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 13:05

Perhaps you missed this part of the answer: [i'>As for how the head dress is worn, there is no specific guide to who may or may not wear it with an agal or as a wrapped turban. The rule of thumb though is that wearing with an Agal is formal, and so you will see it worn mostly at work, weddings, and when older (past 20) men are out.[/i'> [b'>For the sake of this discussion, a child who is wearing national dress as part of national day celebrations, it is perfectly acceptable[/b'>. edited by Simone N on 21/11/2011 The part in bold is correct, children should be able to wear it as they are doing it as part of a celebration in their school But you are wrong if you feel the content you quoted means there cannot be any de-facto restrictions on who can wear it. Ask any Emirati friend in the know. There is definitely an unofficial restriction on the Eqal in the UAE, non-GCC people cannot wear it. They can wear the thobe, the Hamdaniyya, the Ghatra but not the Eqal along with it. <em>edited by Arch on 21/11/2011</em>

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 12:54

There is no rule in UAE, which restricting foreigners from wearing UAE national dress. For national day celebration, it is preferred that children wear national dress. :) <em>edited by halfmoon on 21/11/2011</em>

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 12:26

Simone, that does not say that anyone can wear it, it just answers the question that someone who has no idea when a certain piece is worn and by whom (age of male) it is generally worn. It doesn't clarify it either way. Perhaps you missed this part of the answer: [i'>As for how the head dress is worn, there is no specific guide to who may or may not wear it with an agal or as a wrapped turban. The rule of thumb though is that wearing with an Agal is formal, and so you will see it worn mostly at work, weddings, and when older (past 20) men are out.[/i'> For the sake of this discussion, a child who is wearing national dress as part of national day celebrations, it is perfectly acceptable. <em>edited by Simone N on 21/11/2011</em>

Domestic Goddes...

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 12:22

Arch is right, it is not allowed to wear the black one for non Nationals, this became so about 4 years ago (maybe 5/6). However, this is a child, and it's to school for ND celebrations. Get him some white boxers for underneath, though. I wouldn't go all out with the white wrap for comfort reasons. Or alternatively get him some of the white trousers that Saudis where underneath. Where do they wear them? LOL:)

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 12:17

Simone, that does not say that anyone can wear it, it just answers the question that someone who has no idea when a certain piece is worn and by whom (age of male) it is generally worn. It doesn't clarify it either way. Princess... How do you know? :D ;) You could even try it, as my BIL (UK) did with dark blue briefs for a real show! lol..... i have some that i wear for jim jams...... so comfy :D

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 12:09

not just ok but actually required at our school on National Day !! He loved wearing it last year...

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 10:02

Some incorrect information on this thread. Here is some great information about [i'>ghutra [/i'> [url=http://www.askanemirati.net/2010/08/what-do-different-ghutra-colors-mean.html'>link[/url'>

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 09:53

Arch is right, it is not allowed to wear the black one for non Nationals, this became so about 4 years ago (maybe 5/6). However, this is a child, and it's to school for ND celebrations. Get him some white boxers for underneath, though. I wouldn't go all out with the white wrap for comfort reasons. Or alternatively get him some of the white trousers that Saudis where underneath.

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 09:15

It is absolutely fine for your child to wear [i'>khandoora [/i'>as part of National Day celebrations as well [i'>guthra [/i'>and [i'>agal [/i'>if he wishes. Younger boys tend to just wear [i'>ghafiyah [/i'> (the small white crocheted cap) rather than the complete headdress. Each GCC country has its own way of wearing [i'>guthra[/i'>; some with [i'>agal[/i'>, some without. Omanis wear [i'>kuma [/i'>(the small white hat with coloured embroidery). Bahrainis tend to tie their [i'>guthra [/i'>around their head rather than wearing it in the flowing style. Saudis tend to wear a red and white checkered [i'>guthra[/i'>. But there is nothing to stop a Bahraini wearing a [i'>kuma[/i'>, etc. It's just what they have traditionally done. I think it's lovely that your child will be wearing [i'>khandoora [/i'>on one of the most auspicious days of the year.

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 09:14

I'm not an expert but I'd be surprised by that since it is used to hold the ghurtrah, which many non-GCC men wear, in place. If you notice , you will those non-GCC men who wear the Ghatrah dont wear the Eqal. Some South Asian and Iranian men wear the headress and thobe, but never the actual Eqal. I think its an "unofficial" law. but for children i think it will be ok ! Hmmm. I know I have seen Iraqis and Palestinians wearing aqaals with ghurtrahs...

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 09:10

For National Day the past 2 years, it seemed as though at my kids' school (international, western-based curriculum), the younger ones were encouraged to dress up in national dress, there were even some Arab women selling national dress clothing for both boys and girls. Since I have girls, I didn't really look at the boys' clothing at all, so am unsure as to exactly what they were allowed to wear. <em>edited by emmess on 21/11/2011</em>

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EW GURU

Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 09:04

But the rope headress was originally to use to tie up camels - nothing sacred about that surely?!

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 09:02

Maybe he could wear the dishdash with a baseball cap?

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 09:02

I'm not an expert but I'd be surprised by that since it is used to hold the ghurtrah, which many non-GCC men wear, in place. If you notice , you will those non-GCC men who wear the Ghatrah dont wear the Eqal. Some South Asian and Iranian men wear the headress and thobe, but never the actual Eqal. I think its an "unofficial" law. but for children i think it will be ok !

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 08:58

My DS has worn a kandora a number of times for National Day to school... this year included... we have been asked to dress our children in National dress. :)

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 08:58

I don't think it would be an issue. I've seen plenty of adults, not GCC citizens wearing them to various events. I actually think it would be very acceptable as it shows people getting into the mood and I think it's nice.

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 08:57

Of course it's ok! Nothing disrespectful in dressing in cultural wear Well as far as i know its not allowed for a man who is not a GCC Citizen to wear the "Eqal", the black rope used on top of the headress (Ghatra). However it may not be applicable for children, maybe someone better versed may clarify ? I'm not an expert but I'd be surprised by that since it is used to hold the ghurtrah, which many non-GCC men wear, in place. Is this a Dubai law, Arch?

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 08:55

oh right, will hold back my purchase .... thanks Arch. Anyone able to clarify?

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 08:51

Of course it's ok! Nothing disrespectful in dressing in cultural wear Well as far as i know its not allowed for a man who is not a GCC Citizen to wear the "Eqal", the black rope used on top of the headress (Ghatra). However it may not be applicable for children, maybe someone better versed may clarify ?

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 08:49

thank you Redlesley, thought it best to check ... only one has to be a bit careful sometimes! Off to Carrefour I go to get one then!

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 08:46

DS (who is British) announced that he wants a kandora to wear to school for the National Day celebrations, and says it's ok - I am unsure if this is acceptable and I don't want him to be disrespectful in any way - help! Of course it's ok! Nothing disrespectful in dressing in cultural wear

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Latest post on 21 November 2011 - 08:44

DS (who is British) announced that he wants a kandora to wear to school for the National Day celebrations, and says it's ok - I am unsure if this is acceptable and I don't want him to be disrespectful in any way - help!

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