Circumcision

Really dont understand why anyone would do this to a child regardless of culture or religion. God wanted it there, obviously!

we had DS done at about 4 months I think he was... the only pain to him / affect that it had was the fact the gause the next day would not come off at all! we ended up back at City Emergency and spent 4.5 hours with a screaming baby (and bawling mother!) trying to get the gause off and the nerve of the Doctor who performed it (at City) when I called him, told me "just pull it off!" OMG there was no way, we soaked and soaked it but the blood and wee etc had just got it so sticky that we couldn't just pull it off. It was horrible - so when you do do it, make sure they DON'T use the "extra sticky" gause which the Doctor did say to me was some sort of highly absorbable gause which we would be able to pull off... yeah - nup... don't let them put that one on! a regular bandage gause would have done much better me thinks. It was the worst day of my life going to that hospital to have them take it off :( The doctor in emergency though was so lovely and understanding and very patient and calming. :( awwwww, bless the poor little guy. I can't believe he told you to ''just pull it off'' - awful!!!!

we had DS done at about 4 months I think he was... the only pain to him / affect that it had was the fact the gause the next day would not come off at all! we ended up back at City Emergency and spent 4.5 hours with a screaming baby (and bawling mother!) trying to get the gause off and the nerve of the Doctor who performed it (at City) when I called him, told me "just pull it off!" OMG there was no way, we soaked and soaked it but the blood and wee etc had just got it so sticky that we couldn't just pull it off. It was horrible - so when you do do it, make sure they DON'T use the "extra sticky" gause which the Doctor did say to me was some sort of highly absorbable gause which we would be able to pull off... yeah - nup... don't let them put that one on! a regular bandage gause would have done much better me thinks. It was the worst day of my life going to that hospital to have them take it off :( The doctor in emergency though was so lovely and understanding and very patient and calming.

ha ha ha ... I know I will have to put up with 'the look' and the 'I told you so's' if anything ever happens (fingers crossed that it won't!!!!), but I am prepared to! Sorry to hear about your LO condition - I hope this will have no further effects. Thank you. :D It's not a major drama and fairly easily managed we hope...Dr is confident he's fine but only time will tell. :)

every time my LO has a tiny bit of nappy rash "you know where" I get "the look" too, but the fact that its almost impossible to get a circumcision back home was enough to win the "same as" argument for us too. am happy for your LO that he managed to keep his little foreskin, do be careful with pediatricians, it seems to be a common problem and I heard one particularly nasty retraction story that has me totally paranoid.

Happy ending on this one - after holiday to visit family and hubby realising DS' cousins are not circumcised, we have put the subject to rest and my little darling came back intact :) This was never a religious matter for us; rather hubby's opinion for that DS should have it done because he'd had it done some 40 years ago when this was routine procedure on all newborns for 'hygiene' reasons. ... Excellent twin_butterfly...I'm thrilled you were able to come to a mutual decision. It was your concern that your husband had made this decision, not both of you, that worried me. My husband also felt the same way and I spent many hours showing him evidence that there is no medical indication for a circumcision in a normal, healthy child. He tried the 'odd one out' argument until I showed evidence that (in our home area), the circumcised child is more likely to be the odd one out...not that "odd one out" actually matters to me. I want our children to grow up celebrating people's differences! Can I suggest you be prepared for some 'repercussions'? My son had a few UTI's when he was little. He also got the odd thrush infection with antibiotics. I was always getting "the look" from my husband and a lecture about how we just should have lopped it off. *roll eyes* We now know that our son has a congenital kidney condition that contributed the infections. Nothing to do with his external physical appearance. So, be ready for the inevitable attitude, should your precious little man ever have any issues in that general area. :)

We did it for my son just over a year ago. We wanted to get it done at birth, but UK only do it if its a medical emergency. So never got around to doing it untill we moved here. Sorry but that's not true. Our son was done in the UK at 4months old at a private practice that was registered to do all Muslim and Jewish circumcisions in the area (and it was so busy he had to wait 5weeks!). It cost something like £70. You just have to look. They may be few and far between but they are there. As for seeing it.... we didn't. They whisked him off into a clinical room just around the corner of the waiting room and we had him back in less than 5mins. It was a plastic ring not a band. The skin was clipped and we just had to keep it clean. He wasn't in any distress after getting it done, he didn't even cry when they gave him back to us (I do believe they wiped some anesthetic on the area before doing it). Problem was too much attention was given to us to washing it but not to airing it afterwards! So he got a minor infection which we noticed ourselves on day 3 and took him to the GP to get him antibiotics. That was the only time we needed to give calpol as well. Within 3days he was better. I think the ring dropped off at around the week mark and it took a further week to heal fully. It's been done neatly and never caused him problems. It does everything a 'peepee' is meant to do lol. Sorry I ment done in the hospital he was born in! NHS will only do it if it is a medical emergency! I know it can be done, I did look into it, but the nearest place to where we lived at the time was an hours and a half away.

Your baby's/toddler's foreskin should never be forcibly retracted to be cleaned by you or by a Dr and I have heard horror stories of Pediatricians doing so without warning as part of medical examinations so be careful! Oh my! That actually has made me feel a bit queasy!

I think sleeping around is disgusting, as is drinking so much alcohol that your rat-*****, mutton dressed as lamb with too much make-up or mini skirts with a belly hanging over the top and many other similar things.... * Am totally confused as what sleeping around or drinking alcohol has to do with circumcision????? The OP is expressing some doubt in the wisdom of the decision to circumcise so I actually think in this specific instance, its completely appropriate for people to voice their opinions for or against so long as they do so respectfully and objectively. I personally would not remove a part of my child's body for cosmetic purposes, and I do not believe there is a good medical argument to do so as a routine procedure (no professional medical body recommends this anymore and I'm assuming your son will not grow up in AIDs prevalent Sub-Saharan Africa.) The hygiene argument is pretty null in a society that access to clean showers and soap daily so really your only reason for doing it would actually be for religious/cultural reasons. My husband is circumcised as it used to be somewhat common in western culture too, and we talked about it before my son was born. We decided that since he would ultimately grow up back in NZ, where his peers would not be circumcised then it made more sense for him to be the same as them, rather than the "be like daddy" argument. If your son will be growing up in a Muslim culture/be raised Muslim then there is a cultural/religious argument to consider and you may decide reducing emotional risk of possibly being ostracised/different during puberty etc outweighs the significant physical pain you are choosing to inflict. If you truly believe that for whatever reason, God wants you to do this, then there isn't really any point in objectively researching it at all. If you choose not to circumcise, be aware that the Dr's here are completely unfamilar with an uncircumcised penis and often give TERRIBLE advice so you will need to be well informed yourself. I recently read that many of the "risks" associated with not being circumcised are now thought to be largely from infection/scarring due to trauma inflicted by, or on the advice of, well meaning Drs with outdated training. Your baby's/toddler's foreskin should never be forcibly retracted to be cleaned by you or by a Dr and I have heard horror stories of Pediatricians doing so without warning as part of medical examinations so be careful!

I think sleeping around is disgusting, as is drinking so much alcohol that your rat-*****, mutton dressed as lamb with too much make-up or mini skirts with a belly hanging over the top and many other similar things.... * All of which are done by a consenting adult (or near enough). Just saying.

We had it done privately by an Iraqian doctor for £80 who came to our house and explained the whole procedure to both DH & myself. I'm not [i'>entirely[/i'> sure that's actually legal... sounds terribly like a backstreet ab0rtion procedure! He has a clinic too & also does home visits. We opted for home visits twice & did the clinic the third time round. Very professional & comes with nurse in tow.....He practices at the local hospital.

I'd like to add that I see this all the time on the internet...but when someone posts asking advise on WHERE to get a circumcision done or the best AGE etc...there follows lots of posts saying things along the lines of "oh no that's horrific, how could any parent do that" etc People are not asking IF they should get it done or not, they are asking the best way to going about DOING it. Why people feel the need to go poking their noses in is beyond my. You may have strong feelings but you were not asked to voice them =\ I think sleeping around is disgusting, as is drinking so much alcohol that your rat-*****, mutton dressed as lamb with too much make-up or mini skirts with a belly hanging over the top and many other similar things....but do I go jumping onto threads specifically aimed at people who BELIEVE in these things and that it is normal and ok? NO I don't, I keep my nose out. I wish other people could do the same. I'm also noticing quite a lot of shock about Muslim practices....your in a Muslim country....get with it @.@ *gets off soap box*

We did it for my son just over a year ago. We wanted to get it done at birth, but UK only do it if its a medical emergency. So never got around to doing it untill we moved here. Sorry but that's not true. Our son was done in the UK at 4months old at a private practice that was registered to do all Muslim and Jewish circumcisions in the area (and it was so busy he had to wait 5weeks!). It cost something like £70. You just have to look. They may be few and far between but they are there. As for seeing it.... we didn't. They whisked him off into a clinical room just around the corner of the waiting room and we had him back in less than 5mins. It was a plastic ring not a band. The skin was clipped and we just had to keep it clean. He wasn't in any distress after getting it done, he didn't even cry when they gave him back to us (I do believe they wiped some anesthetic on the area before doing it). Problem was too much attention was given to us to washing it but not to airing it afterwards! So he got a minor infection which we noticed ourselves on day 3 and took him to the GP to get him antibiotics. That was the only time we needed to give calpol as well. Within 3days he was better. I think the ring dropped off at around the week mark and it took a further week to heal fully. It's been done neatly and never caused him problems. It does everything a 'peepee' is meant to do lol.

Please don’t do this. It will be excruciatingly painful for your baby. Try tying a rubber band round your nipple until it falls off. God put foreskin there for a reason. Thank you for saying what I wanted to say but could'nt as I did'nt want to offend. I have 2 little boys and its hard for me to imagine a little baby boy going through this... I would like to apologise to the OP too as I understand you are doing this reluctantly and my heart hurts for you and your little boy... <em>edited by designbabe on 22/09/2011</em>

We had it done privately by an Iraqian doctor for £80 who came to our house and explained the whole procedure to both DH & myself. I'm not [i'>entirely[/i'> sure that's actually legal... sounds terribly like a backstreet ab0rtion procedure!

We had all our boys done within the month of them being born in the UK. My youngest was only 7 days old.We had it done privately by an Iraqian doctor for £80 who came to our house and explained the whole procedure to both DH & myself. It healed within the week ( we had a plastic ring which dropped off). They should give you an aneasthetic ointment to apply to the area with each nappy change to ease any discomfort, but we only used this for the first couple of days. Also laying them in a bath of salt water will help keep any infections at bay ( tbh we only did this on the first day). All my boys were fine, in fact the youngest who had it done the earliest, was the easiest. They cry for a few seconds when they have the injections, but after that they should be fine. Good Luck, it's always daunting for us mothers to have to watch our young ones go through it, but honestly, you'll be fine. ;) <em>edited by coco pops on 21/09/2011</em>

Please don’t do this. It will be excruciatingly painful for your baby. Try tying a rubber band round your nipple until it falls off. God put foreskin there for a reason.

We did it for my son just over a year ago. We wanted to get it done at birth, but UK only do it if its a medical emergency. So never got around to doing it untill we moved here. He was 3 when we did it(due to madical emergency), so he needed general, the operation was 20 min, and I gave him pain killers to help him through it. It took about a week for it to heal. I had a cream to put on. They do tell you to let him have a lot of nappy off time so it can heal quicker. But he was ok, not really bothered by it, and loved all the attention. Believe me you as a mom feel it more. It did not affect his sleeping, he just could not sleep on his tummy for a little while, but honestly he was running around 4 hours after it was done. If you going to do it, better get it done sooner rather then later.

we did it for my son when he was about 6 months (for religious reasons). He healed well and there were no problems but let me warn you it was very very tough for me to watch! I would advise you to let your DH and perhaps your mum if poss or other relative go in with your DS We had done it at a private hosp (cant remember which now) but they injected anesthetic right on to his bits and pieces before they started! I wasnt expectng this at the time and was really shaken myself..let alone my poor DS who was shrieking off his head! make sure you know EXACTLY what the procedure is so there are no last minute surprises. having said this, DS healed just fine..I believe we were given an ointment to put in his bath to help him heal quicker. We did it for my newborn the day after he was born. That was around 8 days ago.dr Patrick at city hospital did the circumcision and just before they took him thy applied a local anesthetic cream , when they brought him back half hour later he was fast asleep . His plastic patrull ring fell off last night and everything seems fine thank god. Was sponge bathing him all these days and now have started normal bath. He hasn't been crying or upset when we changed nappies or anything which leads meto believe he wasn't in pain from the ring being there. Good luck!

we did it for my son when he was about 6 months (for religious reasons). He healed well and there were no problems but let me warn you it was very very tough for me to watch! I would advise you to let your DH and perhaps your mum if poss or other relative go in with your DS We had done it at a private hosp (cant remember which now) but they injected anesthetic right on to his bits and pieces before they started! I wasnt expectng this at the time and was really shaken myself..let alone my poor DS who was shrieking off his head! make sure you know EXACTLY what the procedure is so there are no last minute surprises. having said this, DS healed just fine..I believe we were given an ointment to put in his bath to help him heal quicker. Good luck!

er... what benefits? I thought most of the ones being banded about were medically questionable and all could be dealt with with a brief lesson from Dad in personal hygiene and er, s3xual health? Anyhow, sorry... that's not very helpful, is it? He's still young, but I'm sure painkillers will help no end. Lots of cuddles and playing it by ear. Maybe ask your DH how painful he thinks it may be? I always wonder if the men who feel so enthusiastic about it would feel the same if it was a choice that only consenting adults could make - ie, a man would walk in and go "I'd like to be circumcised please". Would they then? I know my DH goes pale and squirms every time I mention a vasectomy, let alone getting bits chopped off! Still, that [i'>would[/i'> be proof of devotion, wouldn't it?! ---- Apologies again - this is one subject where I find it hard to accept that some people would find it acceptable, but I should, and I should also just shut up occasionally! <em>edited by Hello.Again.Kitty on 12/09/2011</em>