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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 13:32

Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the article on the front cover of yesterday's 7 Days re the number of gun licences issued in Abu Dhabi - and the fact that the authorities thought it was a good thing that applications were processed in 10 minutes??!!

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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 18:43
From my earliest memories I can remember my dad having guns.He had them for protection............however he was very careless with them. My mom got up one night to go to the loo and bang,she had bumped the gun that was propped on the ledge at the back of their headboard.On closer inspection we found the bullet had gone through her pillow ! This was just one of MANY incidents.My dad was licenced to carry firearms however he just didn't seem to get it about safe storage etc. Once when my life was in danger I was not sure if I could actually use the gun that I had access to.Thank goodness it never came to that, the police got there before I had to defend myself. What I am saying is a gun is not always a good idea for protection as the police said that if this maniac had managed to overpower me and take the gun it would have been tickets. The ownership of a firearm comes with HUGE responsibility , in the perfect world you should have to earn the right to own one. edited by Nomad on 10/09/2012 <em>edited by Nomad on 10/09/2012</em>
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 18:41
Oh great, can't wait until it becomes the latest thing to go down MOE with your mates and compare who's weaponry is the biggest. Disagreement? No worries, everyone has a gun - quick resolution! Fantastic. Just *sigh* really. Without psychoanalytical testing beforehand and proof of genuine need for weaponry it is just asking for trouble. Recent and not so recent tragedies in the US surely demonstrate why laws around gun ownership should be watertight. And this is from someone who has been shooting since age 8.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 17:57
The article was nearly correct, it was more like 15 mins to issue the license. Not all Emirati's are entitled, only those who hold a nationality book, so that whittles it down a little (or a lot).... To my knowledge approx 95% of Emirati households possess guns and other weapons, the majority of these do not have licenses and their families have always had them. I have been shot at here in Dubai in 1986 (the bullet went into the door of the car that my friends and I were in) and I have had a gun pointed at me in Satwa, I have also had someone break into my villa holding a gun, so all in all, I would say that it is a safe bet we would need protecting.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:53
Seriously this is very scary, this is me being paranoid perhaps but this could start a black market sale for all these guns to non locals! :( Oh please, do you think that these are not readily available for those who want them. Yes I suppose you are right but this might make it even more readily available...
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:51
Seriously this is very scary, this is me being paranoid perhaps but this could start a black market sale for all these guns to non locals! :( Oh please, do you think that these are not readily available for those who want them.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:50
To be perfectly honest, I think there's been alot of salacious reporting on the subject - I don't (hope) think it's genuinely that easy. Considering it comes from 7days, not known for their best reporting skills... Probably by tomorrow we will find some snap shots of our discussion :p
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:49
What is a " normal " purpose for a gun ? The article says: Al Shamsi said that gun buyers were divided “about 50/50” between hunters and people who wanted protection for themselves and their families. Protection from what exactly? The UAE is one of the safest places as far as I'm concerned. They only just got knife wielding gangs under control. It is safe, but I also believe that we might not know everything that happens. And it doesn't change people's experiences they might have had. I don't think we need to start having images of wild shootings. And it is in the end used more in sports and hunting.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:48
To be perfectly honest, I think there's been alot of salacious reporting on the subject - I don't (hope) think it's genuinely that easy.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:45
Most firearms sold will be for use at shooting clubs or on hunting expeditions outside the UAE. http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/sniper-rifles-and-big-game-rifles-top-sellers-at-abu-dhabi-exhibit
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:45
Seriously this is very scary, this is me being paranoid perhaps but this could start a black market sale for all these guns to non locals! :(
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:45
What is a " normal " purpose for a gun ? The article says: Al Shamsi said that gun buyers were divided “about 50/50” between hunters and people who wanted protection for themselves and their families. Perhaps because people have been victims of crimes, know others who have been, and want to protect themselves? If I had been a victim of a burglary or other violent crime, I'd want to have every possible means to protect myself.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:42
What is a " normal " purpose for a gun ? The article says: Al Shamsi said that gun buyers were divided “about 50/50” between hunters and people who wanted protection for themselves and their families. Protection from what exactly? The UAE is one of the safest places as far as I'm concerned. They only just got knife wielding gangs under control.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:41
If people are going to be allowed to carry firearms, then courses in their use, proper instruction etc should be mandatory BEFORE any license is given.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:40
What is a " normal " purpose for a gun ? The article says: Al Shamsi said that gun buyers were divided “about 50/50” between hunters and people who wanted protection for themselves and their families.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:39
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view. It's the hunting heritage you know ;) I seriously doubt somehow that the majority of applicants are going to use them for hunting. For what then? Showing off, shooting into the air at weddings? It is vaguely worrying when someone says: However, gun applicant Hameid Al Hamali told 7DAYS that some people are also worried about crime, especially in rural areas. Rural areas? Crime? ??? From our lovely new part of Dubai homes we have no clue what other people have going on in their lives. As usual, EW ladies are very quick to judge. and as usual you are very quick to jump on us..so what do you think they are using them for? ( wiht your special insight) I don't know, that's why I am not judging anyone for it. We automatically assume things will end up in dramas caused by some lunatic, but maybe people here have a normal purpose for it.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:39
It's not the people who genuinely want one for hunting purposes etc it's those that want one 'because they can'. For what purpose to you want to carry a weapon for? My OH has to carry firearms as part of his job - that terrifies me everyday and he's trained to use them and trains others. To have people who have zero idea of how dangerous they are running around with them is scary to say the least. <em>edited by Chocs01 on 10/09/2012</em>
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:37
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view. It's the hunting heritage you know ;) I seriously doubt somehow that the majority of applicants are going to use them for hunting. For what then? Showing off, shooting into the air at weddings? It is vaguely worrying when someone says: However, gun applicant Hameid Al Hamali told 7DAYS that some people are also worried about crime, especially in rural areas. Rural areas? Crime? ??? From our lovely new part of Dubai homes we have no clue what other people have going on in their lives. As usual, EW ladies are very quick to judge. and as usual you are very quick to jump on us..so what do you think they are using them for? ( wiht your special insight)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:35
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view. It's the hunting heritage you know ;) I seriously doubt somehow that the majority of applicants are going to use them for hunting. For what then? Showing off, shooting into the air at weddings? It is vaguely worrying when someone says: However, gun applicant Hameid Al Hamali told 7DAYS that some people are also worried about crime, especially in rural areas. Rural areas? Crime? ??? From our lovely new part of Dubai homes we have no clue what other people have going on in their lives. As usual, EW ladies are very quick to judge.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:33
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view. It's the hunting heritage you know ;) I seriously doubt somehow that the majority of applicants are going to use them for hunting. For what then? Showing off, shooting into the air at weddings? It is vaguely worrying when someone says: However, gun applicant Hameid Al Hamali told 7DAYS that some people are also worried about crime, especially in rural areas. Rural areas? Crime? ???
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:31
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view. It's the hunting heritage you know ;) I seriously doubt somehow that the majority of applicants are going to use them for hunting. Yes I know.....
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:30
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view. It's the hunting heritage you know ;) I seriously doubt somehow that the majority of applicants are going to use them for hunting. For what then?
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:26
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view. It's the hunting heritage you know ;) I seriously doubt somehow that the majority of applicants are going to use them for hunting.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:24
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view. It's the hunting heritage you know ;)
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:16
One of the problems we noticed on Friday was the fathers encouraging their young kids to pick up and play with all the guns on show and praising them for it.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:14
I think it's worrying from the point of view of people not fully thinking about the dangers of having a gun in the home and not taking adequate precautions for locking them up and locking ammunition separately. They are a tempting 'toy' for children to play with if they are able to access them and tragedies can so easily happen if a child gets their hands on a gun. Like the recent incident where a little boy killed his sister and wounded his brother firing at a dog!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 16:06
I think it's worrying from the point of view of people not fully thinking about the dangers of having a gun in the home and not taking adequate precautions for locking them up and locking ammunition separately. They are a tempting 'toy' for children to play with if they are able to access them and tragedies can so easily happen if a child gets their hands on a gun.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 15:38
In the UK you cannot apply for a gun license without valid reason. They don't issue them to people who want a gun 'just because they want one'. The police check the property to make sure all fire arms are locked away in proper firearms lockers. Police checks, mentality checks etc etc. The article states that even though certificates were issued in 10 minutes, all the weapons have to be taken for ballistics testing, so they know if one was ever used in a crime - exactly who it belongs to. I find this quite horrific. Don't start crying when gun crime suddenly shoots up. You think road rage incidents are bad? Then you have someone carrying a fire arm? Bad, bad, bad idea. edited by Chocs01 on 10/09/2012 Couldn't agree more!!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 15:33
In the UK you cannot apply for a gun license without valid reason. They don't issue them to people who want a gun 'just because they want one'. The police check the property to make sure all fire arms are locked away in proper firearms lockers. Police checks, mentality checks etc etc. The article states that even though certificates were issued in 10 minutes, all the weapons have to be taken for ballistics testing, so they know if one was ever used in a crime - exactly who it belongs to. I find this quite horrific. Don't start crying when gun crime suddenly shoots up. You think road rage incidents are bad? Then you have someone carrying a fire arm? Bad, bad, bad idea. <em>edited by Chocs01 on 10/09/2012</em>
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 13:58
DH and I went to the exhibition and it was really scary watching people and young children waving guns around. Some of the guns available to purchase were semi-automatic and I certainly wouldn't like just anyone buying any type of gun, especially one of those. As AC said at least in the UK the police do check to see where the gun will be kept. I know these checks don't always work, but hopefully the guns there won't be in full view.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 10 September 2012 - 13:48
What checks do you think the UK does more than this in handing out licenses for hunting guns? For a start, they vist every applicants home to ensure the guns are locked in a secure place! And they certainly don't guarantee a licence to UK nationals without a criminal record! Having a firearms trained brother in the UK police force tells me that. Get real!!
 
 

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