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Mummies with Wild Imaginations!!

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EW GURU
Latest post on 21 May 2011 - 10:32

Ladies, on a different unrelated thread, a few of us mummies discovered we had something in common... we have wild and disturbing (to varying degrees I suppose) imaginations. For myself, I have always had a pretty intense imagination and I am also a bit obsessive compulsive. However, since my last couple of months of pregnancy my imagination went supernova to the point that I started wondering if I needed help because surely no normal person's brain would come up with the scenarios of which mine is capable! But in time I discovered that although not necessarily common, there are lots of people in the same boat and from what I've read googling this whole thing it is in fact a form of post natal depression.
Anyway, now that my little girl is almost a year and a half, I find I've improved immeasurably. But it's still there.
However, along with finding out that many other mums are dealing with the same thing, I am now able to accept it and even control it to an extent.
To some this may sound very silly. But if it doesn't sound silly to you then you're probably dealing with the same thing.
Point being, I thought I'd post this because it might help someone else out there to know that they're not the only one. Beyond that, if anyone feels they need to talk to someone else who might understand, perhaps we can help each other out. Here's my email should anyone want to get in touch: mercedes dot king71 at gmail dot com
Here's hoping I don't sound like a complete idiot. But from what others were posting on the other thread, I don't think so.

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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 30 November 2011 - 19:55
m_king, that's exactly how I'm feeling now. I started taking medication a couple of weeks ago and when I started to feel better, worried that my feeling better was only chemically induced and I wasn't really 'me' because of it. It's the opposite - I feel more like 'me' than I have done in a long time and I'm so relieved.
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Latest post on 29 November 2011 - 16:02
Ok, now I'm the one resurrecting... I didn't realize how many people had posted on here! Dubaicat, the way you describe it is EXACTLY how it was for me. Yes, note the "was". I've had VERY mixed feelings about posting this but decided, it could help someone so... Aside from the wild imagination, I've had a hard time with health. I do have a fairly serious health condition but I kept finding all these completely unrelated things wrong with me and each would make me freak out and wonder what OTHER serious health condition I might have. It got ridiculous because I was constantly worried to the extreme and I have a hard time getting to the doctor because of my little one. When I did finally go see my doctor, I had a list! Now, in fairness to myself, the fact of having the list made me point out to my doctor that I was beginning to wonder if I had a 'problem' and needed help. I said this half jokingly but she took me very seriously and suggested something that had never crossed my mind and which, frankly, I wasn't convinced would help. She prescribed an anti-depressant. Prozac to be specific. Within about 3 weeks I started to feel like a different person. At first I was concerned that my new found state of mind was chemically induced and not 'real' and then I realized it's quite the contrary... the previous state of mind was chemically induced (due to a chemical imbalance) and the tablets have put things right. I still worry about my child and my health but it feels normal now. It's not constant and totally uncontrollable and quite so frightening and overwhelming. It's manageable. I'm not doing this justice but I cannot put into less than a few pages, the extent to which this has made a difference in my life. I think about it several times a day. About how lucky I am to feel the way I do now. I feel this immense sense of relief. I described it to my husband the other day saying it's as if you've spent your life with something constricting your chest so you can never take a full breath but you never realized that that wasn't just the way you were. And then you get rid of the constraint and who knew breathing could be so easy and feel so natural and make you feel so good???? Sorry if I sound silly but I wanted to say this because maybe someone else out there would benefit form this as much as I did. Sounds like you got the right advice. Congratulations on what sounds like a new start.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 29 November 2011 - 15:55
Ok, now I'm the one resurrecting... I didn't realize how many people had posted on here! Dubaicat, the way you describe it is EXACTLY how it was for me. Yes, note the "was". I've had VERY mixed feelings about posting this but decided, it could help someone so... Aside from the wild imagination, I've had a hard time with health. I do have a fairly serious health condition but I kept finding all these completely unrelated things wrong with me and each would make me freak out and wonder what OTHER serious health condition I might have. It got ridiculous because I was constantly worried to the extreme and I have a hard time getting to the doctor because of my little one. When I did finally go see my doctor, I had a list! Now, in fairness to myself, the fact of having the list made me point out to my doctor that I was beginning to wonder if I had a 'problem' and needed help. I said this half jokingly but she took me very seriously and suggested something that had never crossed my mind and which, frankly, I wasn't convinced would help. She prescribed an anti-depressant. Prozac to be specific. Within about 3 weeks I started to feel like a different person. At first I was concerned that my new found state of mind was chemically induced and not 'real' and then I realized it's quite the contrary... the previous state of mind was chemically induced (due to a chemical imbalance) and the tablets have put things right. I still worry about my child and my health but it feels normal now. It's not constant and totally uncontrollable and quite so frightening and overwhelming. It's manageable. I'm not doing this justice but I cannot put into less than a few pages, the extent to which this has made a difference in my life. I think about it several times a day. About how lucky I am to feel the way I do now. I feel this immense sense of relief. I described it to my husband the other day saying it's as if you've spent your life with something constricting your chest so you can never take a full breath but you never realized that that wasn't just the way you were. And then you get rid of the constraint and who knew breathing could be so easy and feel so natural and make you feel so good???? Sorry if I sound silly but I wanted to say this because maybe someone else out there would benefit form this as much as I did.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 23 October 2011 - 14:39
what's the lollipop website?? we were in Sri Lanka in August, and every night i ran through a tsunami scenario in my head and how we would recue the boys! and that's only one of the scenarios that goes through my mind!!!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 23 October 2011 - 13:45
hmmm ... the lollipop ... I have been waiting for this one to come up for some time ... FB and its millionaire boys have no ethics when it comes to privacy restrictions (that is why I have no private info on FB other than my name and location. But this one (lollipop) is a new one! I have not posted pics on FB for about 2 years now. Family and close friends ask me for pics of my 6-month old DS but instead of posting them on FB I send them a private e-mail with the pictures. Any wall posts related to DS are always replied to with a private message. I am sure some of my friends on FB who live abroad are starting to think whether me having a baby is all in my mind and he doesn't really exist ... lol Back to this topic: I wash and disinfect literally anything DS touches. If a clean nappy falls on the (disinfected with Dettol) floor, I do not use it but just throw away. If toys falls on the floor, they are put away immediately until I find the time to wash in the machine and wipe with Dettol wipes. My hands are raw in between the fingers from washing them dozens of times a day, and anything in sight. Friends, hubby, MIL already tried to explain bub needs to build his own immune system but that does not help. I am the queen of paranoia when it comes to bacteria and germs.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 23 October 2011 - 12:54
I am an overcautious mother and am very protective of the kids. I often conjure up scenarios and can't take my mind back to happy thoughts. The thing that set me off the other day as the Lollipop website. I started taking down all the pictures of my kids on Facebook
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 23 October 2011 - 12:26
Doesn’t that sound more like an Anxiety disorder? Probably. But then if I got some medicine and stopped worrying so much, what if something happened that I could have foreseen? Like a car suddenly veering off the road or a tsunami at JBR???? :\:
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Latest post on 23 October 2011 - 12:23
I do remember these feelings as my kids grew up. They both survived childhood (and they had far more freedom than kids today have) but I was actually more twitchy as they entered their teens. My DD started going to discos etc from the age of 17 then clubbing when she was 18. She was always fine and came home in the wee hours unscathed. She was 24 when she had a drink spiked and ended up in the poison's unit at Edinburgh Royal. The guy was never caught. My DS sailed through his teen years but I still worry about him and he's 29!!! My own mum worried about me living in the ME during our time in Doha until she came to visit and realised that I wasn't actually living in a tent in the desert and I'm 56!! Motherhood can be a curse at times LOL!!! :)
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EW GURU
Latest post on 23 October 2011 - 11:43
Doesn’t that sound more like an Anxiety disorder?
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Latest post on 22 October 2011 - 11:39
I won't step foot in Thailand because of the tsunami.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 October 2011 - 09:39
DC and Guinness, its exactly as you described! Anything can trigger it, a book scene, a movie scene images like you described! Am glad again that others have the same thing. We are working on a vacation to Thailand and I am not doing the bookings coz I am freaked about a Tsunami (the Japan images impacted me a lot) or a flash flood! I have escape scenarios that I am planning and when I read about the kid dangling from the bullding at JLT, I can't begin to describe the horror i felt! Its gotten to the point where I am only reading chick lit! Someone recommended reading the Room and the premise of the book itself is too horrific for me to even consider reading it! Its been a stressful few months for me with work so maybe thats the trigger! I am ready for it to stop! Sensasia, here I come!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 October 2011 - 09:34
OK, resurrecting this thread! I was on this already and of course in the meanwhile had to get a new name! :( So my question is, when does it stop? DD is almost 2 now and I sometimes still have these thoughts? The incident at JLT seems to have set something off and it been horrid since then. Has it 'stopped" for the rest of you or is it just something that we have to learn to live with as mommies? Hi Morning baby! Hi there! I didn't know about this one. Were you naughty again? Tsk Tsk! ;) * waves*
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Latest post on 21 October 2011 - 20:46
I'm not sure, as the car coming along the road could be prompting the images in your head. The invasive images or invasive thoughts, as my doctor at home explained it, can be completely unrelated to anything going on visually around you and just appear in your head. But I'd imagine what you're describing is along the same lines, for sure. How normal it is I couldn't say! Having said all that, I did some shopping at Spinneys in the middle of the bad patch and pushed the trolley over under a tree before I lifted DS out of it. For a split second before I lifted him out, I had an image of someone leaving a baby in a trolley like that and driving off pop into my head. Then it made me wonder if that actually happened, how long it would take the baby to realise Mum wasn't coming back and how he or she would feel. I grabbed DS out of the trolley like someone was trying to steal him! Clearly that is NOT normal thoughts! But it was obviously prompted by me parking the trolley under the tree, so maybe that's the same kind of thing as you've described?
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 21 October 2011 - 20:07
I thought it was good parenting to imagine every possible horror and then obsess over how to make it not happen. No? It's not necessarily just imagining the worst happening, more like having mini movies or images flash into your head with you having no control over when or what they are (and they're not nice). It does extend to almost obsessing over every possible horror, but it's not limited to this. Yes, yes, I do that! For example, walking along the sidewalk, I see a random car coming down the road, immediately imagine it's veering off the road, onto the sidewalk and into whatever child is walking ahead of me? So I race up and pull said child to the inside of the sidewalk where he'd be less likely to be hit - or at least in my head? Is that *not* normal?
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Latest post on 21 October 2011 - 19:57
I thought it was good parenting to imagine every possible horror and then obsess over how to make it not happen. No? It's not necessarily just imagining the worst happening, more like having mini movies or images flash into your head with you having no control over when or what they are (and they're not nice). It does extend to almost obsessing over every possible horror, but it's not limited to this.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 21 October 2011 - 17:21
OK, resurrecting this thread! I was on this already and of course in the meanwhile had to get a new name! :( So my question is, when does it stop? DD is almost 2 now and I sometimes still have these thoughts? The incident at JLT seems to have set something off and it been horrid since then. Has it 'stopped" for the rest of you or is it just something that we have to learn to live with as mommies? Hi Morning baby!
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Latest post on 21 October 2011 - 17:04
I thought it was good parenting to imagine every possible horror and then obsess over how to make it not happen. No?
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 21 October 2011 - 16:50
Stopped? No. I went through a bit of a bad patch a few weeks ago (disrupted sleep, panicking about new baby) and it was back with a vengeance. But now I'm on more of an even keel - if that's possible with a toddler and an enormous bump - it's faded a bit again. It seems to pop up whenever I'm under stress or am not getting enough sleep.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 21 October 2011 - 10:53
OK, resurrecting this thread! I was on this already and of course in the meanwhile had to get a new name! :( So my question is, when does it stop? DD is almost 2 now and I sometimes still have these thoughts? The incident at JLT seems to have set something off and it been horrid since then. Has it 'stopped" for the rest of you or is it just something that we have to learn to live with as mommies?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 May 2011 - 12:36
Thanks for your kind words m_king and DubaiCat. I'm really glad you brought the subject up on here m_king as just hearing others talk about it really helps and I'm sure it has helped others too. I'm with you DubaiCat, a lot of things make a lot of sense now. It seems so obvious now but I just didn't make that link. I am more prepared this time so will definitely be nipping off to the doctors if there are any signs of PND. Sorry to hear about the traumas of conceiving m_king, I know how you feel and the emotional pressures this causes can never be under-estimated. Good luck with everything :)
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 May 2011 - 11:10
I actually had the easiest birth ever. But apparently the lead up can be just as important and I was told that because I went through so much trying to conceive, it was essentially the same. waterbaby, I'm so sorry about the traumatic birth you mention. don't be hard on yourself and try to tell yourself constantly that you're not mad and that it IS normal and that it's also understandable, all things considered. Maybe you can speak to your doctor about it, if you think he/she would be understanding. Just so they know and can help you, if necessary, after your delivery. DubaiCat, as you say, it is SUCH a relief to find out that you're not the only one and that you're not going mad
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Latest post on 23 May 2011 - 11:39
I had no idea either until somebody mentioned it at a breastfeeding meeting I went to, and then my doctor at home when I saw him about the PND. I said I often got strange images in my head - and it was really bad when DS was tiny - and he explained it all. It made so much sense and it was such a relief to know I wasn't the only one and I wasn't going mad. ETA: I'm so sorry to hear about your previous experience. No wonder you're worried now :(. <em>edited by DubaiCat on 23/05/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 23 May 2011 - 11:26
I thought I was the only one with these kinds of thoughts. Thought I was neurotic! Am 8 months' pregnant and DH went to UK recently for work purposes and it was just after all the Bin Laden issues and I was paranoid there would be terrorist action in London and practically begged him not to go! My DH says I love to worry but the truth is I hate it and wish I could be more relaxed about things. HAK - I burst into tears when I saw a motorcyclist lying in the road after being knocked off his bike (he was ok) and just couldn't stop thinking about how sad it was that this had happened to him and whose fault it was, etc. When we lived in JBR on 20th floor I kept running through escape routes if there was a fire and was so relieved when we moved to a villa as the escape route is much easier in my head! I keep imagining worst case scenarios (what if I bleed to death after my c-section or they cut the baby, etc) and how I would deal with them and worry obsessively over things I have no control over! Goodness knows what I'll be like when my DD is born and there are a million more things to worry about with her! I keep thinking, what if she gets ill and the hospital can't/won't diagnose what it is, what if she rolls off the changing mat, the list goes on. It's interesting what you say Dubai Cat as I had no idea these random thoughts could be linked with a traumatic birth. I had a fairly traumatic birth 18 months ago with a very sad outcome but thought the obsessive fears I have now were really linked to the imminent birth and fears for my little girl rather than a follow on from the previous birth in terms of PND.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 23 May 2011 - 08:22
Thanks. I shall need your expertise on how on earth I'm going to cope with two so a good chat over a cup of tea sounds perfect! :D
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Latest post on 22 May 2011 - 22:57
when I was about 12 weeks pg with my eldest, I burst into tears in the middle of the street when a fire engine on call went past. The firemen looked so serious at the prospect of whatever heroic duty they were about to perform that I was overwhelmed! I've always had a vivid imagination and run through emergency escape scenarios quite regularly - what I'd take, what's important, how I'd do it, transport, etc. When I was a teen, we lived relatively close to a nuclear power plant, so that was a regular one. Now I get a lot of fire drill scenarios (living in a high-rise)... I find the plane one really hard though, because I used to travel with both on my own and kind of knew that I only have 2 arms, so imagined how I'd wrap one around me securely so that I could still save the other. Horrid. That wasn't going to work. --- DC - if you've already had a form of depression, there is a likelihood that you'll get it again, but as others have said, it's recognising the triggers and getting your support network to really pull in and help you so that you don't feel that you're heading down the same path again. If you want to chat about it, give me a buzz - I'm always around!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 22 May 2011 - 22:21
I have a degree in psychology and have read huge amounts about PND and yet, I wasn't able to see it for what it was when I was under its influence. That said, I do think that maybe the second time around, you are more prepared to at least accept it for what it is.
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Latest post on 22 May 2011 - 21:22
Yes, I think there was definitely an element of denial going on for a while. But crucially, I clearly remember telling my Mum I'd read a checklist provided by the NHS on how to spot PND and telling her I could tick lots and lots of the boxes. She said, "Yes, but we could all say that about a lot of things, couldn't we?" I don't think she meant to be so flippant but it really put me off talking about it with her for a long time, and I think that contributed to the head-in-the-sand situation. Thank you. Much appreciated :).
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 22 May 2011 - 20:21
DC - I doubt you'd need your husband to do that. I think you're aware now and should things happen again you'll be more up for helping yourself. There's just something about the first bout of a mental health problem that can make a person hesitate when it comes to believing that they're not well For you though I wish good health and happiness always :) <em>edited by DesertRose1958 on 22/05/2011</em>
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Latest post on 22 May 2011 - 20:16
Obviously I don't know yet but I think I'd be inclined to agree with you :(. But as I said earlier in the thread, there will be no hesitation in taking whatever I need to if there is a next time. A friend said to me today,"But what if you get like you were before and say you don't want to take anything?" so I said I'll brief DH beforehand that he's to march me to the quack and feed me the meds himself if I show any signs of it. <em>edited by DubaiCat on 22/05/2011</em>
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Latest post on 22 May 2011 - 19:43
Does anyone know the likelihood of getting PND again with a second baby? I dont know the answer to that but my own thoughts on the subject are that once a person has had one bout of depression and/or an anxiety related disorder, it lays down a blue-print for future bouts if the circumstances are right. And I do know for sure that after my bout of pnd, which wasnt really that bad in the grand scheme of pnd, I was watched closely during my next pregnancy because for sure there were signs with me during the previous one that something was brewing. So I think the answer probably is - if there isnt an increased risk why would extra care and attention be given to people during subsequent pregnancies and deliveries. Maybe thats me just being daft tho and I'm getting things all wrong. <em>edited by DesertRose1958 on 22/05/2011</em>
 
 

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