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Bye bye Britain

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EW GURU
Latest post on 24 June 2016 - 17:44

We are glad to see the back of you!

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 29 June 2016 - 08:58
Hi Europe, you looks so good. You lost some extra pounds? :biggrin:
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 28 June 2016 - 20:24
Growing up..travelling to Britain filled us with a sense of awe and wonder..The good manners..(most of the time)..Queen's English..e.t.c Britain 'exited' in my mind when I got to London as an adult and saw how 15 year old's were 'rewarded' for having babies outside wedlock--giving them 1 bedroom accommodation when they should have been told' oh well, maybe a mistake, now go back home and do some more growing up' while hardworking parents or people with genuine reasons for separation were punished and had to scheme and make up all sorts to keep their families afloat... The earlier they need to know that the society does not exist in a vaccum..individuals come from families and the more broken families you have, the more broken a nation will be.. The one question I would love to ask is why??? I am not a politician and I recognise this...Was this part of the EU agreement?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 27 June 2016 - 16:48
I am going to start being being honest. I diont know if the Brexit was the right or wrong thing to do! None of us has the ability to truly know what will happen tomorrow, next week or in 20 years time. All I want to see happen is for the people of the U.K. accept the decision and crack on repairing the country - it's been broken for a long, long time.... And they need to start by getting rid of the ridiculous nanny state! Some people are better off not working than actually having a job - how does that make sense? So called disabled people on disability benefit taking it from people who are actually disabled and need the help. Some people don't know the meaning of poor anymore; they think it means not being able to afford the best sky tv package or the latest Nike air max for their kids. Also, some of the people whining that they have had their jobs taken by immigrants have absolutely no interest in working anyway, it's just an excuse. We need to get back to basics and start fixing things and that starts with the welfare system. Totally agree, 100%! Nobbles for Prime Minister!! You get my vote!! :cool:
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 27 June 2016 - 16:03
Campaigning from both sides reached a level that is below pooh from a whale sitting on the bottom of the sea. The elite should have driven the vote for the Brexit but not for the actual reasons put forward by the Leave camp. It is obvious that Europe is a failure in the making where freedom is lost a bit more every day, where growth is non-existent and purely relying on 0% interest rates to keep things going, where.... But for how long? People should have rejected Europe not for fear of lack of immigration control or other xenophobic reasons but for its governance and direction. Europe has been moving towards more and more state control, state intervention, loss of freedom. That's what saddens me the most. We are now facing the rise of extremism in Europe. The Brexit vote should have been a wake up call for Europe.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 27 June 2016 - 15:27
We are glad to see the back of you! LOL! You won't be saying that for long! The UK is one of the biggest contributors to the EU budget ( I think around 8 Billion pounds in net contribution annually). The other EU countries won't be too happy when they are saddled with larger contributions. The UK is a financial powerhouse! In or out, they will be fine. It's the other smaller European economies which will suffer the most. I don't know, I am married to a Brit and from an EU country, children have dual passports, so don't mind if you are right ? Ahh you are in a good position :-)
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EW GURU
Latest post on 27 June 2016 - 15:25
We are glad to see the back of you! LOL! You won't be saying that for long! The UK is one of the biggest contributors to the EU budget ( I think around 8 Billion pounds in net contribution annually). The other EU countries won't be too happy when they are saddled with larger contributions. The UK is a financial powerhouse! In or out, they will be fine. It's the other smaller European economies which will suffer the most. I don't know, I am married to a Brit and from an EU country, children have dual passports, so don't mind if you are right ?
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 27 June 2016 - 15:24
Weighted voting may become a concept of the future, "Weighted Voting"... do you mean that one person's vote will count for more than another person's?? Very animal farm. "We're all equal, but some are more equal than others". I voted to leave. I'm neither racist, nor old, nor stupid. It wasn't a mistake and I would vote the same way tomorrow. I don't believe for a second that this route will be easy - but it will be worth it. I am simply astonished at the call for another referendum simply because the losing side doesn't like the results. I am also disgusted by suggestions that the votes of "old people" are somehow worth less than "young people". Very democratic. I know many sane, educated, open-minded and relatively young Brits who voted to leave the EU. Being in the EU is not the be all and end all ! Some people in the remain camp are acting as if the world has come to an end! I am Swiss and we have never been part of the EU. We have bilateral trade and free movement agreements with the EU and it has always worked well.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 27 June 2016 - 15:10
We are glad to see the back of you! LOL! You won't be saying that for long! The UK is one of the biggest contributors to the EU budget ( I think around 8 Billion pounds in net contribution annually). The other EU countries won't be too happy when they are saddled with larger contributions. The UK is a financial powerhouse! In or out, they will be fine. It's the other smaller European economies which will suffer the most.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 17:44
Why? They don't want to be in the European Union, it's like having unhappy employees in a company, without the negative impact I definitely think Europe will improve. Have you been to FRANCE lately? Strikes, Strikes, Strikes - petrol shortages too not long ago.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 16:34
Hi ladies - we've been asked to stage a debate on the recent Brexit result and the implications it can or may have on expats living here in the UAE and beyond... We would love it if some of you would be interested in joining us? If so, please email [email protected] to express your interest!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 16:19
@Countess Wrinkle you say "new found patriotism," but frankly I think it's really scary if this is what UK patriotism is like. There is obviously a clear difference between patriots and nationalists, yet both are on the same side of the vote on this issue (particularly with regards to immigration). The patriots who voted to exit the EU because they want to see a better UK must shut down the nationalists who are disgusting racists and vile human beings. The nationalists are using this as a catapult for a return to "white Brittain" which is not a better UK, it's just a whiter UK. I said that a little tongue in cheek TCF, agree, the campaign which appeared in the media was quite vile from some quarters. The only way this will work is a massive mindset change.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 16:10
@Countess Wrinkle you say "new found patriotism," but frankly I think it's really scary if this is what UK patriotism is like. There is obviously a clear difference between patriots and nationalists, yet both are on the same side of the vote on this issue (particularly with regards to immigration). The patriots who voted to exit the EU because they want to see a better UK must shut down the nationalists who are disgusting racists and vile human beings. The nationalists are using this as a catapult for a return to "white Brittain" which is not a better UK, it's just a whiter UK.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 15:42
Just my thoughts, but I do not feel this was the right economic or political time for such a major decision, nor was it well thought out. The behaviour of various supporters from both sides left a lot to be desired, quite disgraceful. I’m saddened that the PM has resigned, and fear for who will take the reins. The UK now needs a very clever leader to help steer through the mess, one who puts the long-term economic future of the country before their own whims, fancies and self-glorification; that’s a huge concern as I just don’t see one sitting waiting to take the reins who holds enough experience or strength. The UK is in for a very tough time, it was short-sighted move given the worldwide economic situation. The nanny state has nothing to do with the EU, that’s a whole different ballgame and has needed addressing for many decades. Unfortunately, it appears to have become inherent and endemic in our culture. Well now it will be addressed, as economically everyone will be having to tighten their belts. The UK is a great country and maybe this new found patriotism will ignite the UK to pull together and make their decision work, rather than sit in a pub and discuss how terrible the country is.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 14:59
Like a few others, I left it too late to vote. My gut feeling is that most people voted out did it on a racist basis – Little ****** Englanders! Also I think those who voted out are living in a dream world, yearning after an England that doesn’t exist anymore. Now with Article 50, we will probably have to wait another year before we know where we stand and with the credit rating, there goes our mortgage. On the other hand, bursting the housing bubble sounds good enough for youngsters trying to buy a house. Perhaps we will start getting tax free green beans from Kenya or cheaper Pinotage from South Africa into Sainburys or Waitrose, not that I care too much about wine. "My gut feeling is that most people voted out did it on a racist basis – Little ****** Englanders!" Don't be so ridiculous. I was in the Remain camp but the reaction from people with views like those above has been embarrassing. Talk about throwing your toys out of the pram!
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 14:40
I am going to start being being honest. I diont know if the Brexit was the right or wrong thing to do! None of us has the ability to truly know what will happen tomorrow, next week or in 20 years time. All I want to see happen is for the people of the U.K. accept the decision and crack on repairing the country - it's been broken for a long, long time.... And they need to start by getting rid of the ridiculous nanny state! Some people are better off not working than actually having a job - how does that make sense? So called disabled people on disability benefit taking it from people who are actually disabled and need the help. Some people don't know the meaning of poor anymore; they think it means not being able to afford the best sky tv package or the latest Nike air max for their kids. Also, some of the people whining that they have had their jobs taken by immigrants have absolutely no interest in working anyway, it's just an excuse. We need to get back to basics and start fixing things and that starts with the welfare system.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 14:39
There are reasons people voted out and in reality these concerns and issues should have been addressed a long time before voting. You only have to watch interviews with the public who voted out to see they are misinformed about things regarding this whole situation. They are or were worried for their country and its future in terms of the nhs, school etc without realising a large % of people working in these places are not in fact from Britain at all. I hope for a positive outcome in the future and just hope it doesn't turn nasty... It is also boring me to death that people are labelling those that left 'racist'. Some have their own valid reasons. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, that is the point, no? - Whether we agree with them or not. We have to move forward and somehow make it work for all.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 13:32
I am going to start being being honest. I diont know if the Brexit was the right or wrong thing to do! None of us has the ability to truly know what will happen tomorrow, next week or in 20 years time. All I want to see happen is for the people of the U.K. accept the decision and crack on repairing the country - it's been broken for a long, long time....
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 12:56
Weighted voting may become a concept of the future, "Weighted Voting"... do you mean that one person's vote will count for more than another person's?? Very animal farm. "We're all equal, but some are more equal than others". I voted to leave. I'm neither racist, nor old, nor stupid. It wasn't a mistake and I would vote the same way tomorrow. I don't believe for a second that this route will be easy - but it will be worth it. I am simply astonished at the call for another referendum simply because the losing side doesn't like the results. I am also disgusted by suggestions that the votes of "old people" are somehow worth less than "young people". Very democratic. I don't agree with weighted voting, because part of democracy is the idea of "one person, one vote." After watching the video below, I do feel like the majority of voters who voted to leave the EU were extremely short-sighted and didn't consider that many of them won't be alive to see the full effect of exiting the EU. We are talking 20-30 years down the line. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2016/jun/24/what-do-young-people-think-about-brexit-video Considering that the majority of youth voters wanted to remain in the EU, what does that say? They are the ones who will be around to fully absorb the positive/negative effects of this vote. This quote sums it up: "16 and 17-year olds weren't even asked. A 90 year-old has more of a say in the rest of our lives than we do." We have effectively decided the future of the country for an entire generation, without letting them have a vote. They aren't children, they are young adults and they deserve to be heard. I think it's quite sad.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 12:14
Like a few others, I left it too late to vote. My gut feeling is that most people voted out did it on a racist basis – Little ****** Englanders! Also I think those who voted out are living in a dream world, yearning after an England that doesn’t exist anymore. Now with Article 50, we will probably have to wait another year before we know where we stand and with the credit rating, there goes our mortgage. On the other hand, bursting the housing bubble sounds good enough for youngsters trying to buy a house. Perhaps we will start getting tax free green beans from Kenya or cheaper Pinotage from South Africa into Sainburys or Waitrose, not that I care too much about wine. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/25/meet-10-britons-who-voted-to-leave-the-eu
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 June 2016 - 11:20
Weighted voting may become a concept of the future, "Weighted Voting"... do you mean that one person's vote will count for more than another person's?? Very animal farm. "We're all equal, but some are more equal than others". I voted to leave. I'm neither racist, nor old, nor stupid. It wasn't a mistake and I would vote the same way tomorrow. I don't believe for a second that this route will be easy - but it will be worth it. I am simply astonished at the call for another referendum simply because the losing side doesn't like the results. I am also disgusted by suggestions that the votes of "old people" are somehow worth less than "young people". Very democratic.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 23:01
Wait till you will hear, France & Germany, right wing people asking for referendum. In my opinion, mortal leaders sometime make there choices for selfish path to power but generations will carry the burden of it, This event will encourage the sentiment to divide instead of unite. We as human race, Divided we fall and united we can face any challenge. We still don't feel the threat to existence of our species. We may not see much but our children will face strong natural limitations. Its just this far.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 21:29
Like a few others, I left it too late to vote. My gut feeling is that most people voted out did it on a racist basis – Little ****** Englanders! Also I think those who voted out are living in a dream world, yearning after an England that doesn’t exist anymore. Now with Article 50, we will probably have to wait another year before we know where we stand and with the credit rating, there goes our mortgage. On the other hand, bursting the housing bubble sounds good enough for youngsters trying to buy a house. Perhaps we will start getting tax free green beans from Kenya or cheaper Pinotage from South Africa into Sainburys or Waitrose, not that I care too much about wine.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 18:09
Both sides were making very strong arguments nd the result is so close. Good luck to Britain and EU. Weighted voting may become a concept of the future, As expats in this country, does this affect your day to day life in anyway? I am sure the results of it are very unknown at this time though. I wonder how it affects marriages between Brits and non Brits. Well they can envoke article 50 to start the separation process. Then they will have 2 years to decide who gets the toaster, kettle etc. Maybe have a side deal about visiting the dog..... Sorry couldn't resist. You're spot on, this is a divorce............and neither side ever wins in divorce.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 17:56
Both sides were making very strong arguments nd the result is so close. Good luck to Britain and EU. Weighted voting may become a concept of the future, As expats in this country, does this affect your day to day life in anyway? I am sure the results of it are very unknown at this time though. I wonder how it affects marriages between Brits and non Brits. Well they can envoke article 50 to start the separation process. Then they will have 2 years to decide who gets the toaster, kettle etc. Maybe have a side deal about visiting the dog..... Sorry couldn't resist.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 16:03
Both sides were making very strong arguments nd the result is so close. Good luck to Britain and EU. Weighted voting may become a concept of the future, As expats in this country, does this affect your day to day life in anyway? I am sure the results of it are very unknown at this time though. I wonder how it affects marriages between Brits and non Brits. That would depend on where they live. Living in the EU as I do, and my US DH has residency there, then overnight we BOTH become third country parties. Now, or as soon as the legal process of leaving is instigated, we will both be aliens. A mess for us, but that was not the primary reason I was pro EU, I believed passionately that Europe should stay together, And I still do, in spite of the idiocy of my compatriots who have been swept up in a tissue of lies and demagogic posturing. . The events of the last few days are heart breaking.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 15:39
Both sides were making very strong arguments nd the result is so close. Good luck to Britain and EU. Weighted voting may become a concept of the future, As expats in this country, does this affect your day to day life in anyway? I am sure the results of it are very unknown at this time though. I wonder how it affects marriages between Brits and non Brits.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 14:54
The more I have been speaking with friends and colleagues and been reading about the decision for the UK to leave, I agree with posters here that there were some rebellious voters that didn't really know what they were voting for and it seems to be the older generation that wanted out and a lot of young educated people wanted to stay. I had a "friend" telling me he's happy to be out, as that will stop the scroungers, as there are no Brits on benefits, if it's people like that been making the decision, I actually feel sad for the ones that wanted to remain. There were definitely people voting out for the wrong reasons. The ones that wanted out I'm glad they are out, but obviously a lot would have been happier to stay...
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 11:52
There are reasons people voted out and in reality these concerns and issues should have been addressed a long time before voting. You only have to watch interviews with the public who voted out to see they are misinformed about things regarding this whole situation. They are or were worried for their country and its future in terms of the nhs, school etc without realising a large % of people working in these places are not in fact from Britain at all. I hope for a positive outcome in the future and just hope it doesn't turn nasty...
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 07:44
Absolutely gutted. People voted in protest; many didn't fully understand the consequences or think they would win. They didn't understand the financial consequences or credit rating risk. A can of worms now, a can of worms. I am truly broken hearted. :(
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 25 June 2016 - 06:54
Not everyone voted OUT. This is a tragedy for everyone who believed in a united Europe. We have seen the longest period of peace in Europe since the fall of the Roman Empire. If you can rejoice at the beginning of the collapse of one of the most forward thinking movements in the last hundreds of years then you are either deluded or sad. Countries united by close trade agreements do not go to war. Europe tried to destroy itself for hundreds of years, the EU was, and pray God still, will be a bulwark against another war. The UK has made a terrible mistake, which we will regret deeply in the future. In the meantime,this is no time to revive old prejudices. We have seen the longest period of peace in Europe since the fall of the Roman Empire. The biggest load of tush I have ever heard - wars in Europe have existed for many centuries since the Roman Empire - in one form or another. You misread me. Let me put it this way, from the time Rome ceased to hold sway over Europe UNTIL 1945, there was almost continual warfare between the major powers. The EU was the result of a vision born in 1945 and promoted by amongst others, Sir Winston Churchill in order to ensure a lasting peace. Countries with intertwined economic and political systems don't go to war. The EU is about much much more than tariffs and quotas, it's far from perfect but it's the best we have. Far too many people voted for what they remember as the good old days, but those good old days never were. I hope I'm wrong, but I think the UK has made a terrible mistake.
 
 

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